| Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal | |
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Dustination
2812 Dustination
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:49 pm | |
| We all know that Frisk is obviously a little boy Edit: woop five pages |
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Slissith
2277 ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:51 pm | |
| Frisk is genderless.
Your ignorance is infuriating. |
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Roy Level 7 CPU
1169 RoyMaster4
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:13 pm | |
| I'm going to call Frisk a girl, I don't care what you say.
It doesn't change the fact that I support her. |
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MarioStrikerMurphy1994 Level 5 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:37 pm | |
| - Dustination wrote:
- We all know that Frisk is obviously a little boy
Edit: woop five pages Sure? I say this because I heard of some people that this character is genderless; so, the gender is depending the belief of the player... |
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TrinitroMan Level 7 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:50 am | |
| In actuality, whenever Frisk has a gender is pretty relative. Maybe Frisk is a boy, maybe Frisk is a girl, maybe Frisk doesn't have a gender at all. Does it matter? Hell no! So instead of calling Frisk "he" or "she", we should just call Frisk "Frisk". Or at least "it". But seriously, let's talk about the character's chances in Crusade and its movelist instead. |
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Slissith
2277 ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:26 am | |
| - Roy wrote:
- I'm going to call Frisk a girl, I don't care what you say.
It doesn't change the fact that I support her. I'll remember this. |
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Lego Shaq
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:21 pm | |
| ITT: Good job on invalidating a gender identity dumbasses
Lol, the fact we went on 5 pages about how you people cannot deal with Frisk going by "they" shows how quality this thread is. |
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Dustination
2812 Dustination
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:25 pm | |
| - Lego Shaq wrote:
- ITT: Good job on invalidating a mental illness dumbasses
Lol, the fact we went on 5 pages about how you people cannot deal with Frisk going by "they" shows how quality this thread is. I support him. |
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Lego Shaq
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:26 pm | |
| - Dustination wrote:
- Lego Shaq wrote:
- ITT: Good job on invalidating a mental illness dumbasses
Lol, the fact we went on 5 pages about how you people cannot deal with Frisk going by "they" shows how quality this thread is. I support him. lego_shaq [4:26 PM] dust you dont realize this is not ruckus [4:26] this is chaos |
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procrastinatingDestiny Level 6 CPU
875 DestinyIntwined
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:49 pm | |
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Dustination
2812 Dustination
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:05 pm | |
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Lego Shaq
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:18 pm | |
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DemonicGamerAzazel Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:30 pm | |
| I LOVE Undertale! I has an amazing musical score, interesting and fun gameplay, awesome story and characters, and a lot of just clever things in general. I do feel that it will persevere into the future as a gaming classic.
THAT HAVING BEEN SAID
There is no way in hell that Undertale deserves a rep. It's very very VERY much too new, isn't the best franchise to represent the indie scene, is currently in a popularity boom that is bound to die down, and (tying back into being too new) would be a big spoiler for quite a while.
Oh, and by the way, if I were to support Frisk, I would say:
STANCE SYSTEM (No Fight/No Mercy). |
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Naughty Ottsel Level 5 CPU
328 Vanillogic
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:03 pm | |
| Surely the gender is up to how the player perceives the character? Seems more likely to me that the devs were intentionally leaving it up to the player's personal way of thinking, rather than trying to force a character who IS GENDER-NEUTRAL ACCEPT IT YOU PRIVILEGED CIS BASTARDS. If you see Frisk as gender-neutral, then , to you, they're gender-neutral. If you see Frisk as a <insert gender here>, then that's what Frisk is to you.
Incidentally, Shaq is totally right. No one's really validating, or supporting, the character, except for Roy, who's pretty lonely. There's no discussion of bettering the moveset going on any more, except for Lonely Roy. Most of the posts on this have been purely in regards to an "issue" that would have literally no impact on how Frisk would play in Crusade. |
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Lego Shaq
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:05 pm | |
| - Naughty Ottsel wrote:
- Surely the gender is up to how the player perceives the character? Seems more likely to me that the devs were intentionally leaving it up to the player's personal way of thinking, rather than trying to force a character who IS GENDER-NEUTRAL ACCEPT IT YOU PRIVILEGED CIS BASTARDS. If you see Frisk as gender-neutral, then , to you, they're gender-neutral. If you see Frisk as a <insert gender here>, then that's what Frisk is to you.
Incidentally, Shaq is totally right. No one's really validating, or supporting, the character, except for Roy, who's pretty lonely. There's no discussion of bettering the moveset going on any more, except for Lonely Roy. Most of the posts on this have been purely in regards to an "issue" that would have literally no impact on how Frisk would play in Crusade. No Frisk is literally confirmed gender neutral, and dev*. Because said dev confirmed it, Toby Fox. 2nd parts right though. |
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Dustination
2812 Dustination
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:16 pm | |
| Toby Fox confirmed to me, personally, that Frisk is a little boy. |
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Naughty Ottsel Level 5 CPU
328 Vanillogic
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:19 pm | |
| Do I listen to someone who's probably done research and knows what they're talking about, or the main dev for Crusade, who could ban me from these forums...oh, god...Undertale ain't got shit on the Crusade Forums when it comes to moral choices |
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OmegaSteve777 Level 8 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:52 pm | |
| this feels like something that came from the spam section |
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Dustination
2812 Dustination
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:03 pm | |
| I've just been poking fun this entire thread, I will never ever infract somebody for disagreeing with anybody, myself included, as long as it's respectful discourse. I'm not a power hungry monster.
I'd like to imagine being a self-insert type thing was the idea but apparently making a 'gender neutral' child protagonist was the course of action taken.
Only constructive replies to this thread from here on out please, it's basically been five pages of shit flinging and while I'm aware that I was definitely part of the problem it's time to stop it. |
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AkumaTh Level 3 CPU
55 AkumaTh
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:59 pm | |
| I was bored and unable to sleep so I thought of trying to make a move list for Frisk. For starters, even if Frisk is a Pacifist, you have to fight at least once to achieve that ending, so fighting is a necessary evil. (If I call Frisk a he, sorry) - dddd:
-SPECIALS-
Neutral Special - Yellow SOUL Functions Similarly to Falco's Gun. Frisk pulls out his Yellow SOUL to fire a shot. https://youtu.be/ogNHObCZjwU?t=5m40s
Side Special - Knife Slice A Chargeable move. Frisk thinks of using the knife before using it. At its Weakest, you use the Toy Knife. Medium Charge you use the Worn Dagger. At Full Charge, you temporarily change into Chara and use the Real Knife.
Down Special - Dog Residue/Dog Salad On Ground - Frisk places a Dog Residue on the ground. If the opponent touches it, it will be stunned. On the Air - Like Pacman's Fire Hydrant, you throw the Dog Residue towards the ground. Misc - Similar to Peach being able to pull out a Bo-Bomb randomly, Frisk will place a Dog Salad down which will heal anyone who touches it.
Up Special - Skilled Ballerina Spin Frisk spins like a Ballerina (with leg extended). On the Ground he can spin in place and in the air it can help Frisk Recover.
-GROUND ATTACKS-
Jab - Tough Glove A three punch combo.
Dash Attack - Ballerina Spin A different Ballerina Spin.
Side Tilt - Throw Stick You throw a stick. Smash version throws stick farther. Low Damage.
Down Tilt - Green SOUL Seemingly blocks with Spear. Smash version blocks one way than the other.
Up Tilt - Torn Notebook Throws a bunch of papers above Frisk. Smash version is stronger.
-AERIALS-
Neutral Air - Burnt Pan You hit people with a Pan.
Forward Air - Empty Gun Fires a gun similar to Villager's Slingshot
Back Air - Stick You attack with a stick.
Down Air - Burnt Pan You hit people with a pan. Meteor Strike capable.
Up Air - Bad Memory You throw a Bad Memory towards your opponent.
-GRABS/THROWS-
Pummel - Hug You hug your opponent.
Forward Throw - Heel Turn You do a taunt that sends the opponent flying back. https://youtu.be/wSTcRzpL7pQ?t=1m43s
Back Throw - Pose You pose, throwing the person backward. https://youtu.be/wSTcRzpL7pQ?t=1m16s
Down Throw - Pose You do a different pose that the opponent is trampled by. https://youtu.be/wSTcRzpL7pQ?t=2m3s
Up Throw - Pose A different pose that kicks the opponent upwards https://youtu.be/wSTcRzpL7pQ?t=2m9s
-Other-
Taunt - Mercy The Mercy Option shows up and Frisk presses it.
Smash - Sans Counter When his bar is full, his B becomes a Counter Move. If connected (any attack), Sans will come out and send the opponent that did the attack flying in one of three directions. Unless you hit a wall, you're gone. Unlike other Smash moves, you can still be attacked and damaged by your opponent. Before the bar is empty, you have three chances to land a counter. After the third chance, that's it.
EDIT: My idea is that Frisk, outside a fully charged Side Special and Smash, would be the weakest character in the game. Because he is not putting his all into his attacks. But Chara and Sans would, thus making him a threat at two instances.
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lordvaati Level 2 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:38 pm | |
| well, this escalated quickly.
Toby has been contacted by a Dev support member from Nintendo. |
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procrastinatingDestiny Level 6 CPU
875 DestinyIntwined
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:18 am | |
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Sean_McMuffin Level 4 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:22 am | |
| Undertale on 3DS and would be amazing. |
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procrastinatingDestiny Level 6 CPU
875 DestinyIntwined
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:45 am | |
| Yeah I'm not recovering this thread from the void of discussion, it's too long gone |
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Braystar Level 7 CPU
1231 N/A
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:14 pm | |
| Suicide is the only option now Also to be "constructive", Frisk shouldn't be in because 'it' is less than a year old, and unlike Corrin, isn't owned by Nintendo |
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Roy Level 7 CPU
1169 RoyMaster4
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:04 pm | |
| Actually, further than that, it's been confirmed that he's going to work on a Wii U port of it. He just needs someone to actually code it since he doesn't know any programming languages. |
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procrastinatingDestiny Level 6 CPU
875 DestinyIntwined
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:27 am | |
| Wait, if he doesn't know programming than how in the F*** did he make the game? |
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Sean_McMuffin Level 4 CPU
175 EnderSean311
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:41 am | |
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Lego Shaq
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:18 pm | |
| So if this is gonna become the Undertale General let's just move this to spamboards |
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BeatBW Level 1 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:22 am | |
| - Braystar wrote:
- Suicide is the only option now
Anyhow, even though I'm really into it, I'd say it might be a bit too early for any Undertale stuff. That said, I don't necessarily think that Undertale should be verboten on principle. It already seems to be demonstrating some significant staying power, and I don't think it's gonna be going outta style particularly soon, especially since Toby has hinted in the past that he might be doing more with Undertale as an IP in the future. Really, my concern comes more from the fact that bringing both Undertale's massive rabid fanbase and equally rabid detractors into the world of SSBC would lead a horrific, endless tornado of shitposting that none of us would ever recover from. People are too quick to get really mad about Undertale, and other people are too quick to jump to it's defense. i mean look at everything braystar has posted in this threadIf Undertale ever does get any representation, I think it'd be best to wait for things to cool off a bit. Ironically, giving people some time to forget Undertale exists is probably for the best here. |
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