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Should some characters be removed from the game?
Yes, remove some characters.
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No, keep the roster.
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I decline to comment on the matter.
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King Proto
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King Proto

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  ProtoBlur

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptyWed May 04, 2016 3:43 pm

Kzinssie wrote:
i feel like constantly updating the memes is a better option than keeping him in 2009 stasis forever but
wouldn't that mean changing Weegee every time there's a new release or two? New meme's appear all the time.
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Dustination



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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptyWed May 04, 2016 6:42 pm

There's a list in the files of one of the demos that has the references for all his moves

Kzinssie wrote:
alright, fair enough

i feel like constantly updating the memes is a better option than keeping him in 2009 stasis forever but

That's a terrible idea
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Braystar
Level 7 CPU
Braystar

  Waluigi
  1231
  N/A

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptyWed May 04, 2016 8:28 pm

The only thing that could be changed is Fortan to GRAND DAD, but Dust hates that meme so I highly doubt it.
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Kzinssie
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Kzinssie

  Shadow
  423
  slothfulunchmeat

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptyWed May 04, 2016 8:36 pm

actually the move specifically references dian shi ma li so turning fortran into GRAND DAD wouldnt really work

i do think racist luigi could make for a good throw tho, causing the opponent's stomach ulcer to practically explode
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Braystar
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Braystar

  Waluigi
  1231
  N/A

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptyWed May 04, 2016 8:40 pm

That would be a good FS, Weegee basically is lame, but have him do the Racist Luigi would now make sense
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Mario123311
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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptyFri May 06, 2016 6:31 pm

Why not NO meme characters and trying to keep things serious? :V

I know I'm talking about a game franchise that added Wii Fit Trainer but at least that wasn't an unfunny 2007 meme that's been dead for years.
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wheeled_tank
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wheeled_tank

  Phoenix Wright
  603
  wheeled_tank

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptyFri May 06, 2016 6:34 pm

Blame the old team who added him 5(?) years ago. If he wasn't in when the new (current) team was making the updates, he wouldn'do be in (same with Goku).
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Braystar
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Braystar

  Waluigi
  1231
  N/A

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptyFri May 06, 2016 6:39 pm

No, now WFT is an unfunny 2013 meme that leached off Villager's meme success.
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AmareTSM

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptyFri May 06, 2016 6:48 pm

*Goes on Crusade Forums*
Braystar wrote:
No, now WFT is an unfunny 2013 meme that leached off Villager's meme success.
*Leaves Crusade Forums*
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Braystar
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Braystar

  Waluigi
  1231
  N/A

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptyFri May 06, 2016 6:58 pm

So I'm the only one who saw those "I'll make you fit...
into a coffin" 'memes'?
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Kzinssie
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Kzinssie

  Shadow
  423
  slothfulunchmeat

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptyFri May 06, 2016 8:25 pm

that doesn't make the entire character a meme

are you trying to say we should remove characters who have memes based on them because if so i have some bad news for you
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Braystar
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Braystar

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  1231
  N/A

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptyFri May 06, 2016 9:12 pm

No, of course not, but Mario123311's example was really bad reason to remove Weegee so I used his logic back at him
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TrinitroMan
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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 6:11 am

Braystar wrote:
So I'm the only one who saw those "I'll make you fit...
into a coffin" 'memes'?

Well, I know that I did never saw that meme.

Seriously, what kind of dark places of the internet are you visiting to see something like...this?!
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Chaotic Chao
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Chaotic Chao

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  ChaotixChao

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 6:24 am

Kzinssie wrote:
i do think racist luigi could make for a good throw tho, causing the opponent's stomach ulcer to practically explode
This is the single greatest idea ever conceived
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Mario123311
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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 10:53 am

"Meme" characters are things like Weegee, Malleo, Ect. That live on memery and nothing else. Characters like Villager and Wii Fit Trainer don't just live on Memery, They come from actual franchises with respective fans.
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TrinitroMan
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TrinitroMan

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 11:50 am

Wii Fit has fans?
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OmegaSteve777
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OmegaSteve777

  Gooey
  1750

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 1:21 pm

Wii Fit was one of the biggest selling Wii games.
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wheeled_tank
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wheeled_tank

  Phoenix Wright
  603
  wheeled_tank

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 1:54 pm

I wasn't to surprised that Wii Fit Trainer made it in.
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Dustination



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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 3:09 pm

Anyone that hates Wii Fit Trainer is probably fat
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Braystar
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Braystar

  Waluigi
  1231
  N/A

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 3:21 pm

But I'm a skinny to the point you can see my ribcage a bit, and I hate WFT
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AmareTSM

AmareTSM

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 6:06 pm

There's a difference between a joke character and a meme.

Braystar wrote:
But I'm a skinny to the point you can see my ribcage a bit, and I hate WFT

Do you not know what a joke is...
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OmegaSteve777
Level 8 CPU
OmegaSteve777

  Gooey
  1750

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 6:29 pm

I have a question

What would removing characters do for Crusade.
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wheeled_tank
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wheeled_tank

  Phoenix Wright
  603
  wheeled_tank

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 6:30 pm

OmegaSteve777 wrote:
I have a question

What would removing characters do for Crusade.
Nothing (probably hurt it actually). At the same time, there isn't a problem with being hypothetical in terms of a more "realistic" roster.
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Ridori
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Ridori

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OmegaSteve777 wrote:
I have a question

What would removing characters do for Crusade.
It would make it look less like "Muh wishlist roster with what's his face from who cares, that other anime guy from whatever, that cool dude from empty space" stuff you see on deviantArt or some random MUGEN roster. Seriously, there are so many characters and not all of them really have a reason to be here (from Gooey and Mach Rider to Goku and Weegee). It would not only make the game look more serious, but it would also cut time spent/wasted on unnecessary characters. Just imagine how ridiculous it will get when all veterans (or just those that are worth the time like Dedede and Zelda) from Brawl and Melee will be added. But it might be too late to cut characters at this point.
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wheeled_tank
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wheeled_tank

  Phoenix Wright
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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 7:26 pm

While there are a few characters I would remove in a heart-beat, The fact that there are so many different characters just shows how much can be introduced while still feeling familiar. It also allows the public to suggest some characters that, in traditional Smash, wouldn't even have a .01% chance of being in.
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Dustination



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  Dustination

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 7:48 pm

Mach Rider will be fixed but he's not getting removed lmao
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wheeled_tank
Level 6 CPU
wheeled_tank

  Phoenix Wright
  603
  wheeled_tank

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 7:50 pm

I actually like Mach Rider being in. It reminds me of the choices of NES Melee characters (Ice Climbers were chosen over Mach Rider, Excitabiker, Balloon Fighter, and Pit I believe)
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Ridori
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Ridori

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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 7:53 pm

wheeled_tank wrote:
While there are a few characters I would remove in a heart-beat, The fact that there are so many different characters just shows how much can be introduced while still feeling familiar. It also allows the public to suggest some characters that, in traditional Smash, wouldn't even have a .01% chance of being in.
That also gives a feeling that developers add characters just because and actually being worth adding doesn't matters much (which i doubt is the case, but you wouldn't be able to tell if you just downloaded the game). It's less "X?! IS THIS REALLY HAPPENING?!" and more like "Oh? They added X? Huh." Not all characters are done well either (like Mewtwo, who still uses dark attacks and none of attacks he uses when encountered during events, and Ridley, who isn't even standing properly or using more than 3 of the attacks he used in Metroid). But that's not the point.
Dustination wrote:
Mach Rider will be fixed but he's not getting removed lmao
Good to know. He is pretty bad in his current state.
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Dustination



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PostSubject: Re: Character Removal for a Practical Roster?   Character Removal for a Practical Roster? - Page 5 EmptySat May 07, 2016 8:10 pm

The developers you are referring to aren't the current ones, we seriously cannot stress this enough.
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Braystar
Level 7 CPU
Braystar

  Waluigi
  1231
  N/A

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You're still complaining about Ridley's stance?
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