| Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal | |
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TrinitroMan Level 7 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed May 18, 2016 10:20 am | |
| - KeybladePony wrote:
- TrinitroMan wrote:
- But Sans is not the main protagonist.
I remember when Kefka was seriously being considered for Crusade That doesn't mean it's a good idea, though. In fact, I'm one of the people who is against the idea of making Kefka playable in Crusade before the main protagonist, Terra, is playable. I mean, it was already weird when the only Fantastic Four character in Marvel vs Capcom 2 was Dr. Doom. Where were the main protagonists? |
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Roy Level 7 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed May 18, 2016 12:21 pm | |
| I think this is more of a case of 'who is more iconic'. You wouldn't put Pokemon Trainer in before Pikachu, for example.
I'm not sure what I think. While Frisk is the character you play as, Sans is undeniably more popular and well-known. |
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Lego Shaq
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed May 18, 2016 1:18 pm | |
| - TrinitroMan wrote:
- KeybladePony wrote:
- TrinitroMan wrote:
- But Sans is not the main protagonist.
I remember when Kefka was seriously being considered for Crusade That doesn't mean it's a good idea, though.
In fact, I'm one of the people who is against the idea of making Kefka playable in Crusade before the main protagonist, Terra, is playable.
I mean, it was already weird when the only Fantastic Four character in Marvel vs Capcom 2 was Dr. Doom. Where were the main protagonists? Pls go jack off to Terra in another thread thank u |
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Kzinssie Level 5 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed May 18, 2016 1:55 pm | |
| do i get to put that in my signature now |
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procrastinatingDestiny Level 6 CPU
875 DestinyIntwined
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed May 18, 2016 9:52 pm | |
| I've done this multiple times, I've stopped now though |
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TrinitroMan Level 7 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed May 18, 2016 11:11 pm | |
| - Lego Shaq wrote:
- TrinitroMan wrote:
- KeybladePony wrote:
- TrinitroMan wrote:
- But Sans is not the main protagonist.
I remember when Kefka was seriously being considered for Crusade That doesn't mean it's a good idea, though.
In fact, I'm one of the people who is against the idea of making Kefka playable in Crusade before the main protagonist, Terra, is playable.
I mean, it was already weird when the only Fantastic Four character in Marvel vs Capcom 2 was Dr. Doom. Where were the main protagonists? Pls go jack off to Terra in another thread thank u wow, what a mature response. Did Terra killed your dog or something? |
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Lego Shaq
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Thu May 19, 2016 1:14 pm | |
| - TrinitroMan wrote:
- Lego Shaq wrote:
- TrinitroMan wrote:
- KeybladePony wrote:
- TrinitroMan wrote:
- But Sans is not the main protagonist.
I remember when Kefka was seriously being considered for Crusade That doesn't mean it's a good idea, though.
In fact, I'm one of the people who is against the idea of making Kefka playable in Crusade before the main protagonist, Terra, is playable.
I mean, it was already weird when the only Fantastic Four character in Marvel vs Capcom 2 was Dr. Doom. Where were the main protagonists? Pls go jack off to Terra in another thread thank u wow, what a mature response. Did Terra killed your dog or something? A mature response would be me posting the Supa Hot Fire gif Terra killed my hopes and dreams of you doing anything good on this forum |
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TaXMaN Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Thu May 19, 2016 1:35 pm | |
| - Lego Shaq wrote:
- TrinitroMan wrote:
- Lego Shaq wrote:
- TrinitroMan wrote:
- KeybladePony wrote:
- TrinitroMan wrote:
- But Sans is not the main protagonist.
I remember when Kefka was seriously being considered for Crusade That doesn't mean it's a good idea, though.
In fact, I'm one of the people who is against the idea of making Kefka playable in Crusade before the main protagonist, Terra, is playable.
I mean, it was already weird when the only Fantastic Four character in Marvel vs Capcom 2 was Dr. Doom. Where were the main protagonists? Pls go jack off to Terra in another thread thank u wow, what a mature response. Did Terra killed your dog or something? A mature response would be me posting the Supa Hot Fire gif
Terra killed my hopes and dreams of you doing anything good on this forum Shaq, do us all a favour and stop. |
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Kzinssie Level 5 CPU
423 slothfulunchmeat
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Thu May 19, 2016 1:42 pm | |
| thanks for the new signature bro |
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procrastinatingDestiny Level 6 CPU
875 DestinyIntwined
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Thu May 19, 2016 3:49 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Thu May 19, 2016 7:14 pm | |
| I think we all know the best Undertale rep would be Papyrus |
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Kzinssie Level 5 CPU
423 slothfulunchmeat
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Thu May 19, 2016 7:30 pm | |
| If nothing else, whether Frisk gets in or not, Sans is definitely assist trophy material. |
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King Proto Level 5 CPU
427 ProtoBlur
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Thu May 19, 2016 7:44 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Fri May 20, 2016 10:19 pm | |
| Canonically Sans would be almost impossible because he dies in one hit.
If anything he's a definite good joke character conceptually. |
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GamingGryffindor Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Sun May 22, 2016 9:55 pm | |
| Canonically Ryu has a health bar Canonically Mario should shrink after one hit Canonically Fox should be in an Arwing Villager can't jump, Kirby could fly indefinitely
Smash has never followed canon |
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Kzinssie Level 5 CPU
423 slothfulunchmeat
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Sun May 22, 2016 10:43 pm | |
| Yeah but the one-hit thing is a huge part of Sans's whole gimmick. Dies in one hit, won't stop dodging. |
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Roy Level 7 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Mon May 23, 2016 9:51 am | |
| Mario doesn't shrink after getting hit in Mario 64 (which is the basis of his Smash Bros incarnation). Kirby doesn't have infinite flight in Kirby 64.
Smash doesn't need to follow these rules anyways, but I'm more concerned about making it feel like Sans. If he's lazy until he takes a lot of damage, that's the Lucario gimmick. I'm not sure how to represent 'Only strong when he has to be'.
Instead, I feel like Papyrus is a better choice. Sans can still be present in some way (in some attacks or just watching from the sidelines), but Papyrus doesn't have the issues Sans has. Toriel is also an option, but I feel like the skelebros are more well-known. |
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Lego Shaq
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Mon May 23, 2016 1:19 pm | |
| - Roy wrote:
- Mario doesn't shrink after getting hit in Mario 64 (which is the basis of his Smash Bros incarnation). Kirby doesn't have infinite flight in Kirby 64.
Smash doesn't need to follow these rules anyways, but I'm more concerned about making it feel like Sans. If he's lazy until he takes a lot of damage, that's the Lucario gimmick. I'm not sure how to represent 'Only strong when he has to be'.
Instead, I feel like Papyrus is a better choice. Sans can still be present in some way (in some attacks or just watching from the sidelines), but Papyrus doesn't have the issues Sans has. Toriel is also an option, but I feel like the skelebros are more well-known. Or Instead of adding in side characters We can literally just add the main character |
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Dustination
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Mon May 23, 2016 1:35 pm | |
| Because Cross would get in before Elma obv |
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Chaotic Chao Level 4 CPU
249 ChaotixChao
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Mon May 23, 2016 1:39 pm | |
| - Lego Shaq wrote:
Or Instead of adding in side characters We can literally just add the main character Why is this so hard to understand lol Assuming we add anyone from this short one-hit-wonder story-centric Indie game in the first place |
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Roy Level 7 CPU
1169 RoyMaster4
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Mon May 23, 2016 4:50 pm | |
| - Lego Shaq wrote:
- Or
Instead of adding in side characters We can literally just add the main character Because these side characters are more recognizable and popular than the 'main' playable character. Pokemon Trainer vs Pikachu. Chocobo Knight vs characters like Terra, Squall, etc. Jack Frost vs any SMT main character. Ray MK III vs Ray. Some people would prefer Zero before X. Etc. Before you try to argue each individual matchup, the point is that Sans, Papyrus, etc are more recognizable and popular than Frisk / Chara. Just because a concrete protagonist exists doesn't mean that said protagonist is the best choice. Also Dust, I wouldn't put it past the Smash development team to put Cross before Elma. I mean, Robin and Corrin happened... |
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Dustination
2812 Dustination
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Mon May 23, 2016 5:18 pm | |
| Robin and Corrin both actually have dialogue outside of yes/no answers and a little bit of personality that isn't created entirely by the player's actions, but no I wouldn't really put it past them
If there's situation in which Pikachu vs Pokemon Trainer works flawlessly it's that one |
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Lego Shaq
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Mon May 23, 2016 6:34 pm | |
| - Dustination wrote:
- Because Cross would get in before Elma obv
This is ONE example and while you play from Cross' PoV, Elma is very much just as main as him |
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TrinitroMan Level 7 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Tue May 24, 2016 8:57 am | |
| Actually, Elma is even more main than Cross. |
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procrastinatingDestiny Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Tue May 24, 2016 1:56 pm | |
| What game are they from??? |
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Chaotic Chao Level 4 CPU
249 ChaotixChao
| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Tue May 24, 2016 4:27 pm | |
| If you want to make a sans thread, just do that instead of drawing out this one even more... |
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Nintensis Level 4 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Tue May 24, 2016 6:55 pm | |
| This thread^ |
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wheeled_tank Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Tue May 24, 2016 7:16 pm | |
| I think this topic needs a reset; It has been going WAY off the original.
On this topic, I do not support. Undertale has no influence (direct or otherwise) on Nintendo. Also, while the game is popular, there is no word at all on any sequel. |
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GamingGryffindor Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Tue May 24, 2016 9:26 pm | |
| Apparently Toby Fox has been speaking with some Nintendo reps
Maybe an Undertale release, it would be nice. |
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Lego Shaq
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| Subject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal Wed May 25, 2016 1:15 pm | |
| - wheeled_tank wrote:
- I think this topic needs a reset; It has been going WAY off the original.
On this topic, I do not support. Undertale has no influence (direct or otherwise) on Nintendo. Also, while the game is popular, there is no word at all on any sequel. It doesn't need a reset if in 8 pages it's gotten, what, 3 supporters lol. There's a reason its going off the original |
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