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Dustination



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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyTue Jan 26, 2016 6:49 pm

We all know that Frisk is obviously a little boy
Edit: woop five pages
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyTue Jan 26, 2016 7:51 pm

Frisk is genderless.

Your ignorance is infuriating.
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyTue Jan 26, 2016 8:13 pm

I'm going to call Frisk a girl, I don't care what you say.

It doesn't change the fact that I support her.
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyTue Jan 26, 2016 8:37 pm

Dustination wrote:
We all know that Frisk is obviously a little boy
Edit: woop five pages

Sure?

I say this because I heard of some people that this character is genderless; so, the gender is depending the belief of the player...
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 12:50 am

In actuality, whenever Frisk has a gender is pretty relative.
Maybe Frisk is a boy, maybe Frisk is a girl, maybe Frisk doesn't have a gender at all.
Does it matter? Hell no! So instead of calling Frisk "he" or "she", we should just call Frisk "Frisk".
Or at least "it".
But seriously, let's talk about the character's chances in Crusade and its movelist instead.
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 2:26 am

Roy wrote:
I'm going to call Frisk a girl, I don't care what you say.

It doesn't change the fact that I support her.

I'll remember this.
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 1:21 pm

ITT: Good job on invalidating a gender identity dumbasses

Lol, the fact we went on 5 pages about how you people cannot deal with Frisk going by "they" shows how quality this thread is.
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Lego Shaq wrote:
ITT: Good job on invalidating a mental illness dumbasses

Lol, the fact we went on 5 pages about how you people cannot deal with Frisk going by "they" shows how quality this thread is.

I support him.
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 1:26 pm

Dustination wrote:
Lego Shaq wrote:
ITT: Good job on invalidating a mental illness dumbasses

Lol, the fact we went on 5 pages about how you people cannot deal with Frisk going by "they" shows how quality this thread is.

I support him.

lego_shaq [4:26 PM]
dust you dont realize this is not ruckus
[4:26]
this is chaos
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 1:49 pm

*They
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 2:05 pm

*Him
or her
Who knows
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 2:18 pm

Donkey kong here
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 2:30 pm

I LOVE Undertale! I has an amazing musical score, interesting and fun gameplay, awesome story and characters, and a lot of just clever things in general. I do feel that it will persevere into the future as a gaming classic.

THAT HAVING BEEN SAID

There is no way in hell that Undertale deserves a rep. It's very very VERY much too new, isn't the best franchise to represent the indie scene, is currently in a popularity boom that is bound to die down, and (tying back into being too new) would be a big spoiler for quite a while.

Oh, and by the way, if I were to support Frisk, I would say:

STANCE SYSTEM (No Fight/No Mercy).
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 6:03 pm

Surely the gender is up to how the player perceives the character? Seems more likely to me that the devs were intentionally leaving it up to the player's personal way of thinking, rather than trying to force a character who IS GENDER-NEUTRAL ACCEPT IT YOU PRIVILEGED CIS BASTARDS. If you see Frisk as gender-neutral, then , to you, they're gender-neutral. If you see Frisk as a <insert gender here>, then that's what Frisk is to you.

Incidentally, Shaq is totally right. No one's really validating, or supporting, the character, except for Roy, who's pretty lonely. There's no discussion of bettering the moveset going on any more, except for Lonely Roy. Most of the posts on this have been purely in regards to an "issue" that would have literally no impact on how Frisk would play in Crusade.
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 6:05 pm

Naughty Ottsel wrote:
Surely the gender is up to how the player perceives the character? Seems more likely to me that the devs were intentionally leaving it up to the player's personal way of thinking, rather than trying to force a character who IS GENDER-NEUTRAL ACCEPT IT YOU PRIVILEGED CIS BASTARDS. If you see Frisk as gender-neutral, then , to you, they're gender-neutral. If you see Frisk as a <insert gender here>, then that's what Frisk is to you.

Incidentally, Shaq is totally right. No one's really validating, or supporting, the character, except for Roy, who's pretty lonely. There's no discussion of bettering the moveset going on any more, except for Lonely Roy. Most of the posts on this have been purely in regards to an "issue" that would have literally no impact on how Frisk would play in Crusade.
No Frisk is literally confirmed gender neutral, and dev*. Because said dev confirmed it, Toby Fox.

2nd parts right though.
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 7:16 pm

Toby Fox confirmed to me, personally, that Frisk is a little boy.
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 7:19 pm

Do I listen to someone who's probably done research and knows what they're talking about, or the main dev for Crusade, who could ban me from these forums...oh, god...Undertale ain't got shit on the Crusade Forums when it comes to moral choices
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 7:52 pm

this feels like something that came from the spam section
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptyWed Jan 27, 2016 8:03 pm

I've just been poking fun this entire thread, I will never ever infract somebody for disagreeing with anybody, myself included, as long as it's respectful discourse. I'm not a power hungry monster.

I'd like to imagine being a self-insert type thing was the idea but apparently making a 'gender neutral' child protagonist was the course of action taken.

Only constructive replies to this thread from here on out please, it's basically been five pages of shit flinging and while I'm aware that I was definitely part of the problem it's time to stop it.
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I was bored and unable to sleep so I thought of trying to make a move list for Frisk. For starters, even if Frisk is a Pacifist, you have to fight at least once to achieve that ending, so fighting is a necessary evil. (If I call Frisk a he, sorry)
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well, this escalated quickly.

Toby has been contacted by a Dev support member from Nintendo.
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My God!
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Undertale on 3DS and would be amazing.
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Yeah I'm not recovering this thread from the void of discussion, it's too long gone
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Kill Me Suicide is the only option now Kill Me

Also to be "constructive", Frisk shouldn't be in because 'it' is less than a year old, and unlike Corrin, isn't owned by Nintendo
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Actually, further than that, it's been confirmed that he's going to work on a Wii U port of it. He just needs someone to actually code it since he doesn't know any programming languages.
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Wait, if he doesn't know programming than how in the F*** did he make the game?
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Game maker
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So if this is gonna become the Undertale General let's just move this to spamboards
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PostSubject: Re: Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal   Frisk (Undertale) Discussion: The Pacifist or The Genocidal - Page 5 EmptySat Feb 06, 2016 9:22 am

Braystar wrote:
Kill Me Suicide is the only option now Kill Me

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Anyhow, even though I'm really into it, I'd say it might be a bit too early for any Undertale stuff. That said, I don't necessarily think that Undertale should be verboten on principle. It already seems to be demonstrating some significant staying power, and I don't think it's gonna be going outta style particularly soon, especially since Toby has hinted in the past that he might be doing more with Undertale as an IP in the future.

Really, my concern comes more from the fact that bringing both Undertale's massive rabid fanbase and equally rabid detractors into the world of SSBC would lead a horrific, endless tornado of shitposting that none of us would ever recover from. People are too quick to get really mad about Undertale, and other people are too quick to jump to it's defense.

i mean look at everything braystar has posted in this thread

If Undertale ever does get any representation, I think it'd be best to wait for things to cool off a bit. Ironically, giving people some time to forget Undertale exists is probably for the best here.
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