Subject: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:17 pm
Confirmed Information Note: Credits to FrostWraith & others from Smashboards for all the sources & info collected. You can find his thread HERE.
Veteran Characters (Total: 24)
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-Mario --- Still uses F.L.U.D.D.
-Luigi --- does his traditional fluttering with his legs on double jump --- has more vertical height than Mario in his jump.
-Peach --- New Bair, which is her swinging her crown backwards --- New USmash, which has her using streamers for a wider hitbox.
-Bowser --- He has a new & upright idle stance. --- Running speed & attacks have been adjusted, making him more powerful. --- Uses a dropkick as an attack.
-Donkey Kong --- Up Special has been altered & angled differently with more ground mobility.
-Diddy Kong --- Increased flexibility.
-Yoshi
-Link
-Zelda
-Sheik
-Toon Link
-Samus --- Samus has a new look based on Metroid: Other M. --- Forward Smash now produces an explosion, having a bigger hitbox as well.
-Zero Suit Samus
-Kirby --- Thwomp (Down B) has been redesigned with spikes.
-King Dedede - Has one of the strongest Side Smash attacks in the game.
-Fox
-Pikachu
-Charizard
-Lucario - Influence to Aura has been increased, making a damaged Lucario a force to be reckoned with.
-Marth
-Marth
-Pit --- Weapons from KI: Uprising added in his moveset. The Upperdash Arm & Guardian Orbitars are new special moves.
-Olimar
-Sonic
Newcomer Characters (Total: 6)
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-Villager --- uses turnips in his move set
-Wii Fit Trainer
-Mega Man --- Moveset based on attacks from Mega Man 2 & Marvel vs Capcom
-Rosalina --- Uses Lumas to her playstyle. --- Down Special, called the Gravitational Pull, sucks up items & weapons. Weapons will be disabled when using this move --- Luma Shot, which shows different ways to control your Luma. You can switch between controlling the Luma alongside Rosalina or away from her. --- Rosalina & Luma's attacks are very different even when pressing the same buttons.
Starfy Waluigi Andross Metroid Knuckle Joe Saki Amamiya Lyndis Dr. Wright
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Skull Kid Nintendogs (French Bulldog) Ashley Mother Brain Isabelle Midna Dark Samus Chain Chomp Elec Man Color TV-Game 15 Dillon (Rolling Western)
New Items (Total: 15)
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-X-Bomb (Kid Icarus)
-Hocotate Ship Bomb (Pikmin)
-Steel Diver Gun (Steel Diver)
-Golden Beetle (Legend of Zelda)
-Fairy Bottle (Legend of Zelda)
-Ore Club (Kid Icarus)
-Gust Bellows (Legend of Zelda)
-POW Block (Super Mario Bros.)
-Fire Bar (Super Mario Bros.)
-Back Shield (Kid Icarus)
-Bombchu (Legend of Zelda)
-Rocket Belt (Pilotwings)
-Beehive (Animal Crossing)
-Blue Shell (Super Mario Bros.)
-Boomerang (???)
-Cucco (Legend of Zelda)
-Drill Arm (Kid Icarus)
-Galaga (Galaga)
-Killer Eye (Kid Icarus)
-Special Flag (???)
-Tanookie Leaf
-Treasure Box (???)
New Gameplay Changes
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-Tripping has been removed.
-The game speed is between Melee & Brawl.
-Character customization (to an unknown extent) --- available on the 3DS version and transferable to the Wii U version. These will affect the characters' moves somehow.
- Launch Trails with different colors. --- The characters' launch trails when attacked depend on who hit them, being red if hit by player 1 or green if hit by player 4. Sakurai stated this new mechanic makes it easier to know who gets the KO point.
- Slashing Effects --- Character moves have slashing effects that allow players to see the area where the attack hits.
-Character Outlines on 3DS version --- The outlines can be modified to be thinner, thicker, or completely removed.
- Red-Black Damage Effects --- A red-black effect now appears when you're hit by a strong blow. It'll only appear when you have high damage.
- Ledge Defense/Offense --- Air time and accumulated damage will determine your period of invincibility while hanging on an edge. Grab controls will no longer be affected by whether you have above or below 100% damage.
- Consecutive Jab changed --- Now consecutive standard attacks will always transition into a finishing move.
Returning Gameplay Changes
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-Footstool Jumping
-Final Smashes
-Multiple, non-directional air dodges like Brawl (subject to change)
-Multiple Taunts
-Pivot Grabs
-Aerial Clashes
-Short Hops
Trophies
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Wii U Trophies
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Others
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- Subspace Emissary NOT returning --- Due to Brawl players recording Subspace Emissary and posting it on Youtube as a "Lets Play", Subspace Emissary is not returning. Sakurai doesn't want to lose future Smash players that will just go to Youtube to watch the Adventure Mode's cutscene rather than playing it first hand. Instead, newcomers will have trailer videos available at the start of the game or after unlocking them.
- Smash Run
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:19 pm
Due to Forumotion's limitations on thread pages, I had to make a new thread for this topic.
Also, Palkia confirmed, probably as Pokeball. Thus deconfirming the return of Spear Pillar.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:56 pm
its xerneas not xereas not that its a big deal
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:43 am
Sakurai confirmed that indeed Palkia is a PokéBall. He also says "Palkia appeared in the Spear Pillar stage of the previous game", so I would say this is Spear Pillar deconfirmed.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:46 am
lol yea, at the time i saw the image, it was on the official website cause it didnt upload on miiverse. so i wasnt sure.
anyways, is it just me or are we not expected to see returning stages at all?
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:15 am
Only one I expect to return is Battlefield. Though I wouldn't be surprised to see a classic stages section in the game that isn't announced until the release.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:03 am
being that sakurai has to focus on two games that have different stage rosters, i have my doubts.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:08 am
if the stages are exclusive based on what platform the games came from, does that mean there will be no pokemon stages on the wii u?
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:16 am
There are loads of console Pokémon games, I doubt we'll go without them on Wii U.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:37 am
I'm assuming that the Pokemon Wii U stages will be either one of the spin-off games or an original stage by Sakurai like he did with Pokemon Stadium and Poke' Floats.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:01 am
GigaPichu wrote:
if the stages are exclusive based on what platform the games came from, does that mean there will be no pokemon stages on the wii u?
a. It was only stated that Wii U will be more console based and 3DS will be more handheld based, not that ONLY console based stages will be in Wii U and ONLY handheld based stages will be in 3DS.
b. Palutena's Temple is in Wii U.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:26 pm
Perhaps we will see a Pokemon Colosseum based stage, or a Pokemon Rumble themed stage. There are plenty of 3D Pokemon games, perhaps we'll see a PokePark theme'd stage, that's my best bet.
Isn't there a Kid Icarus on the NES? I heard somehing about Palutena's Temple being in that game at the end or something.
Also Palkia looks sweet
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:13 pm
Speculation for Pokemon stage for Wii U: Poketopia from Pokemon Battle Revolution.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:21 am
Am I the only person here disappointed we didn't get conformation of Mewtwo today? After all, it is his birthday.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:30 am
lol I didn't even know Mewtwo had a birthday.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:29 pm
I'm not; I wouldn't expect another Pokémon reveal one week from the last one, let alone one that would be treated as a Newcomer in a technical sense.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:01 pm
retroactively wishing we got a jesus reveal on christmas
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:02 pm
notbro wrote:
retroactively wishing we got a jesus reveal on christmas
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:41 pm
It's apparently also Rick Astley's birthday, so I'm more disappointing that he wasn't announced today.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:20 pm
Dr. CanadianBacon wrote:
It's apparently also Rick Astley's birthday, so I'm more disappointing that he wasn't announced today.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:58 pm
do rick astley and mewtwo seriously share a birthday
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:45 pm
"Pic of the day. Housed within the Control Capsule! Protected by Rinkas! Eyeball armed with a Laser Brain Attack!! The massive Assist Trophy Mother Brain joins the collection!!"
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:17 pm
Finally, i think Metroid deserves more than, well, just Metroid as and assist Do you think this replaces the Metroid assist trophy?
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:39 pm
I agree, Metroid deserves much more attention than it gets. I feel that this assist trophy (Mother Brain) gives it more justice. The massive size and it's actions really gives it more of a presence and stands out.
While the Metroid (Brawl assist trophy) was a good choice to give fans someone they are familiar with, it just wasn't enough. It really wasn't much of a threat to me since it felt like it just scatters anywhere and escaping the Metroid's attack wasn't that difficult. It didn't have much of a presence either since it was silent, on attacks when making contact, and had the size of a below average fighter.
Will Metroid assist be replace for Mother Brain, I wouldn't be surprised. Metroid's task as an assist trophy can be given to a different character that is able to roam around, latch on to a opponent, and attack.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:07 am
It's because Metroid will be playable.
Or at least the Super Metroid will.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:55 am
Gives me some great hope for Ridley. After all, if Ridley wasn't playable and they made a new Metroid Assist Trophy, you can be damn sure they'd pick him over Mother Brain.
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:31 am
However, we still have Pyrosphere to worry about
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:49 am
why can't metroid crawl?
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:20 am
It's nice to see more Metroid in here finally, it deserves more attention. (and games too...) Mother Brain looks pretty amazing
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Subject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW) Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:22 am
Smash King wrote:
However, we still have Pyrosphere to worry about
Yeah there's still that. We know given how popular the character is, that Ridley is bound to appear somewhere, and this makes Assist Trophy much less likely.
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