Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion

Project M had it so if Bowser was crouching, he wouldn't take any knockback from low-damage attacks, then with several strong attacks he also would not take any knockback from stronger attacks I think. I do wonder what this means in this picture? Perhaps jumping on Bowser's back while he is crouched will actually hurt you? Or yeah, maybe Up Smash...

Shell defence isn't out of the question, but in this picture I'm pretty sure Spin Dash isn't even hitting Bowser's hurtbox anyway. Usmash sounds most likely to me.

If it is Crouching defense from above, Sakurai most definitely took the inspiration from Mario and Luigi Bowsers Inside Story, and not from P:M. In BIS He had a 'counter' thing there he crouched and anything that tried to jump on him wouldn't hurt him.

golden wrote:

...better I be the villain that crushes the remaining hope now than have that very hope be the one that does them in, as it will be much more painful.

This is what pisses me off the most, that you are somehow obligated morally to "save people" from that small moment of disappointment that they may or not experience. Seriously, you're talking about trying to make people "see the error of their ways" in order to avoid a simple "Hey, the game's out! Oh, but Toad's not playable... Oh well, I guess I'll move on from this slight disappointment and play the game."

That said, I accept your apology. Just try to put things into perspective before you have that kind of tone in your arguments.

MercuryHg34 wrote:

golden wrote:

...better I be the villain that crushes the remaining hope now than have that very hope be the one that does them in, as it will be much more painful.

This is what pisses me off the most, that you are somehow obligated morally to "save people" from that small moment of disappointment that they may or not experience. Seriously, you're talking about trying to make people "see the error of their ways" in order to avoid a simple "Hey, the game's out! Oh, but Toad's not playable... Oh well, I guess I'll move on from this slight disappointment and play the game."

That said, I accept your apology. Just try to put things into perspective before you have that kind of tone in your arguments.

I think people need to realise that thinking something is not the same as pleading for something.

Do I think Toad will be playable: Yes
Will I be devastated if Toad is not: No

MercuryHg34 wrote:

golden wrote:

...better I be the villain that crushes the remaining hope now than have that very hope be the one that does them in, as it will be much more painful.

This is what pisses me off the most, that you are somehow obligated morally to "save people" from that small moment of disappointment that they may or not experience. Seriously, you're talking about trying to make people "see the error of their ways" in order to avoid a simple "Hey, the game's out! Oh, but Toad's not playable... Oh well, I guess I'll move on from this slight disappointment and play the game."

"Small amount of disappointment"?
Understatement of the year.

I've seen much more than "slight disappointment" throughout Smash forums, even going as far as lambasting Sakurai for not including "one of Nintendo's biggest All-Stars" and being completely pessimistic over whatever else comes into the game since Toad was one of the only things they cared about. And that's just going by the November 15th pic.

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That said, I accept your apology. Just try to put things into perspective before you have that kind of tone in your arguments.

And I would advise you do the same. Know that I always have a reason for what I say.

Marty the Thwomp wrote:

MercuryHg34 wrote:

golden wrote:

...better I be the villain that crushes the remaining hope now than have that very hope be the one that does them in, as it will be much more painful.

This is what pisses me off the most, that you are somehow obligated morally to "save people" from that small moment of disappointment that they may or not experience. Seriously, you're talking about trying to make people "see the error of their ways" in order to avoid a simple "Hey, the game's out! Oh, but Toad's not playable... Oh well, I guess I'll move on from this slight disappointment and play the game."

"Small amount of disappointment"?
Understatement of the year.

I've seen much more than "slight disappointment" throughout Smash forums, even going as far as lambasting Sakurai for not including "one of Nintendo's biggest All-Stars" and being completely pessimistic over whatever else comes into the game since Toad was one of the only things they cared about. And that's just going by the November 15th pic.

Man, you have only yourself to blame if you think a few aspergers cases on Smashboards overreacting over something this petty are worthy of anything more than a "get a load of this guy".

@Ike's 'confirmation': Not sure if everyone is serious about that or not, but the character in the picture is Marth. Specifically, Marth using the Dancing Blade, hence the red trail following the blade.

take it to PMs already fuck

madam im adam wrote:

take it to PMs already fuck

So, what do you guys think Toad's Final Smash might be? I personally think that "Pow" is highly unlikely.

Slissith wrote:

madam im adam wrote:

take it to PMs already fuck

So, what do you guys think Toad's Final Smash might be? I personally think that "Pow" is highly unlikely.

I bet according to some fan's illogical perception of final smashes, it will have nothing to do with Toad...

Ganonthegreat wrote:

I think people need to realise that thinking something is not the same as pleading for something.

Do I think Toad will be playable: Yes
Will I be devastated if Toad is not: No

This is basically what I was getting at. Yes, SOME people might bake a bigger deal than others about something not getting in, but most of us will just accept it and move on relatively quickly. In other words, don't make a big deal out of something so frivolous while also aiming to make people upset. You may disagree with me all you want, just don't be an asshole about it and we can still shake hands at the end of the day. That goes for everyone, too.

"Don't be an asshole about it"

When am I not an asshole?

I can confirm from way back in the day after reading the old smashboards thread, EVERYONE was an asshole.

Golden just stayed the way he was

Honestly, I think the Crusade forum is the only place that reference Smash that doesn't get overemotional when a character gets cut or doesn't debut in the official title after release.

GigaPichu wrote:

I can confirm from way back in the day after reading the old smashboards thread, EVERYONE was an asshole.

Golden just stayed the way he was

Pretty much.

Wait, Golden is Marty the Thwomp? I couldn't tell.

I never understand people who wear "asshole" like a badge. It's not and never has been a positive thing.

Anyway, that train stage makes me wonder: is it going to work like Big Blue? Would that mean Big Blue's not coming back this time? Would they risk having two similar stages?

Dry wrote:

I never understand people who wear "asshole" like a badge. It's not and never has been a positive thing

compensation for inadequate manhood

Dry wrote:

Would they risk having two similar stages?

Battlefield, Yoshi's Story, Fountain of Dreams, Dreamland

Dry wrote:

I never understand people who wear "asshole" like a badge. It's not and never has been a positive thing.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JerkWithAHeartOfGold

where's your heart of gold tho

madam im adam wrote:

where's your heart of gold tho

Obviously in his name. Well not the heart, but at least gold is in there.

Dry wrote:

Anyway, that train stage makes me wonder: is it going to work like Big Blue? Would that mean Big Blue's not coming back this time? Would they risk having two similar stages?

I remember Sakurai saying something about Past Stages not returning this time around because of the 3DS. Something about downscaling them or something. I imagine this is why we are getting version exclusive stages to compensate for that.

RIP Hyrule Temple

Smash King wrote:

RIP Hyrule Temple

That's what hacking is for.

Looks like a new weapon today, but it's very had to see anything. Has anybody found the Sakurai quote?

Looks like it could be a new shield break effect