Crusade Stage Roster Discussion (Part 1)

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Update:

2 vote for 5 stages

15 votes for 6 stages

Still waiting to see what numbered stages RoyMaster voted on

Oh, 6, but irrelevent since most people voted that too.


I suggest modifying Hyrule Castle to look like LttP, as well.

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6 Stages.

While the votes are being tallied (Spoiler: 6 wins)... going to make a few comments:


- Ocarina Medley. For those who don't know, this is essentially Crusade's Galaxy Tours (The SSF2 stage). You start in the Temple of Time, then after a set time a song plays, and you warp to a new location. It will include the 6 main places from OoT and the 4 from MM (This means this stage includes Great Bay Melee, Water Temple, and a bunch of other cool stuff!). I urge you all to vote for this truly unique stage.

- Hyrule Castle... we should definitely keep it, it's already in the game (As much as I'd like to remove it)... I want to modify it slightly (Same layout), but keep it in the game.

- The remaining stages... Palace of Winds seems to have some support for Vaati's home stage. Skyward Sword deserves a stage, yet might not get one at this rate (Skyloft doesn't add much to the game). I've heard some people want a 'retro' rep - I don't think anything best represents this other than Tal Tal Heights. It represents the 'field' areas from all of the Zelda games while not being a flat stage (It's a mountain range), can include some nice gimmicks, and of course, is from an old game. Some may argue for Temple Melee, but we already have 2 Smash Zelda stages (3 if you count Great Bay if Ocarina Medley wins)... that's enough. Not sure if Tingle deserves his own stage, but whatever it would be, it would be pretty unique.

I vote 6 as well.

I also completely agree with Roy on this one.


For the Skyward Sword stage... How about Sealed Grounds?

Update:

2 vote for 5 stages

19 votes for 6 stages

I know it looks obvious that 6 stages will win, but I'm still leaving the numbed stage poll open at least till Wednesday. In case tables get turned.

For those of you who are reading this thread, but have yet to put in their votes, please do so. Your contributions means a lot to this topic

@Roymaster: Tingle deserves it more than Vaati, so if Vaati's getting one...

6 Wins Yeah! Lets Just Start Discussing The Stages.

My Ideas
Hyrule Temple Melee
Vaati's Sky Palace
Ganondorf's Tower
Great Bay Melee
Skyloft
Stone Tower Temple




The Word Patients is not in my vocabulary!

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Seriously Yeti, I already said TWICE that there wont be no closing on numbered stage polls till Wednesday unless tables turn. Now please, STOP trying to rush this

Until recently,i've noticed some stages have a lot of lag during online gameplay due to moving backgrounds,lots of special effects,etc. like Final Destination.
If it is possible,make the stages interesting,but don't add too much stuff in them.Some people may suffer from lag when they are playing afar from each other,like,for example,someone from South America playing agaisn't someone from Europe or Asia.
SmashKing and i had problems with it in the recent past.Also,it's kind of hard for a table turn to happen.But,everything is possible!(Kinda)

ChickenHawk wrote:

@Roymaster: Tingle deserves it more than Vaati, so if Vaati's getting one...

Imo, Vaati deserves it more than Tingle. Besides, Tingle can fit in many other places. Anything Majora's Mask or Wind Waker related, for example.

Yeti Dk wrote:

6 Wins Yeah! Lets Just Start Discussing The Stages.

My Ideas
Hyrule Temple Melee
Vaati's Sky Palace
Ganondorf's Tower
Great Bay Melee
Skyloft
Stone Tower Temple

Both Great Bay Melee and Stone Tower Temple are part of Ocarina Medley. Vote for that, and you can fit in something else.
Also you forgot Pirate Ship and Hyrule Castle.
(And enough with the damn Hyrule Temple, we've had it in 2 smash games + SSF2, and we already have 2 smash Zelda stages in the demo)

MitsuriZX wrote:

Until recently,i've noticed some stages have a lot of lag during online gameplay due to moving backgrounds,lots of special effects,etc. like Final Destination.
If it is possible,make the stages interesting,but don't add too much stuff in them.Some people may suffer from lag when they are playing afar from each other,like,for example,someone from South America playing agaisn't someone from Europe or Asia.
SmashKing and i had problems with it in the recent past.Also,it's kind of hard for a table turn to happen.But,everything is possible!(Kinda)

I never had any lag problems in single player, but I have a problem in online play no matter what effects exist, even on something simple like Flora... This should be solved generally, and our stage choices shouldn't take this into account.

RoyMaster4 wrote:

(And enough with the damn Hyrule Temple, we've had it in 2 smash games + SSF2, and we already have 2 smash Zelda stages in the demo)

^This

I don't think Hyrule temple is necessary if Hyrule castle is already in Crusade. Besides, i don't think Hyrule temple would fit Crusade's gameplay to be honest.

and about the Ocarina Medley: Please don't add Great bay temple in it just to fill up another stage. Great bay temple is best left as a stage itself. I support on this idea but i don't want Great bay implemented into this. Besides, i thought this was Ocarina Medley. Great Bay Temple was in Majora's mask o.O

Vaati will deserve it more when he is in more games than Tingle and has his own set of games, again, having more than Tingle.

Maikeru wrote:

and about the Ocarina Medley: Please don't add Great bay temple in it just to fill up another stage. Great bay temple is best left as a stage itself. I support on this idea but i don't want Great bay implemented into this. Besides, i thought this was Ocarina Medley. Great Bay Temple was in Majora's mask o.O

It includes the 6 from OoT and 4 from MM. Ocarina refers to the instrument, not the game.


EDIT: Pretty sure Tingle was in more games, actually...

ChickenHawk wrote:

Vaati will deserve it more when he is in more games than Tingle and has his own set of games, again, having more than Tingle.

Actually.. Vaati only was in 3 games.. and that was the Childhood Link saga. Tingle was in like every zelda game and had complete spin-offs of his own..

But to be honest.. Vaati plays a bigger role in the Zelda timeline because hes the main antagonist of the childhood series. Tingle was a side character to begin with. He never had anything upon the major story. He actually had a seperate story of his own within the Zelda storylines.

Even though Tingle had more games, he did not play a bigger role than Vaati... Because Vaati was the antagonist of the childhood link games (Four swords, Four swords adventures, Minish Cap)

Also, a tingle stage? Would it be based off a spin-off game of his own?

Here's how I see it:
Aside from Vaati being the secondary villain of the series, a Four Swords stage would represent both him and Toon Link (whose Final Smash is literally the Four Swords), ergo it's a logical, sensible choice.

Tingle practically represents his own games anyway, so it's only fair to have a Tingle-themed stage. If we're going on the basis that Tingle will exclusively represent the Zelda series, then it's debatable.

TL;DR: Having both wouldn't hurt.

MitsuriZX wrote:

Until recently,i've noticed some stages have a lot of lag during online gameplay due to moving backgrounds,lots of special effects,etc. like Final Destination.
If it is possible,make the stages interesting,but don't add too much stuff in them.Some people may suffer from lag when they are playing afar from each other,like,for example,someone from South America playing agaisn't someone from Europe or Asia.
SmashKing and i had problems with it in the recent past.Also,it's kind of hard for a table turn to happen.But,everything is possible!(Kinda)

RoyMaster4 wrote:

I never had any lag problems in single player, but I have a problem in online play no matter what effects exist, even on something simple like Flora... This should be solved generally, and our stage choices shouldn't take this into account.

If you have no problems in offline, then it means the problem is your or your opponent's connection. Distance also matters.

My vote :
Hyrule Castle ( Super Smash Bros 64 ) ( Keep It don't remplace it )
Great Bea ( Melee ) ( Ocarina Medley )
The Great Sea ( Brawl ) ( Keep it don't remplace it )
Parapa Palace ( Zelda II The Aventures Of Link )
Ganondorf Tower ( Ocarina Of Time ) ( Ocarina Medley ? )
Ocean Temple ( Spirit Tracks )

SmashKing201 wrote:

Update:

2 vote for 5 stages

19 votes for 6 stages

I know it looks obvious that 6 stages will win, but I'm still leaving the numbed stage poll open at least till Wednesday. In case tables get turned.

For those of you who are reading this thread, but have yet to put in their votes, please do so. Your contributions means a lot to this topic

Things still haven't changed since the last time I checked on any changed or additional votes. If there aren't anymore votes for numbered stages or change of votes, we can start voting on the stages itself by tomorrow afternoon.

@RoyMaster and Maikeru: Seems reading comprehension is over your heads...

I said Vaati will deserve a stage more than Tingle when he has more games than Tingle, including his very own series.
But since he doesn't have more....Tingle deserves the stage more.

And specifically at Maikeru: No. Look at the Zelda timeline. Minish Cap and Four Swords came before OoT, and is not part of the "Toon" games (which is actually the "Adult Timeline", ironically).
Four Sword Adventures came after the events of Twilight Princess, which is in the "Child Timeline". While the style of the "Toon" Link was used, it was not a "Toon" game.

So no. Vaati is not the "main villain" of the "Child Timeline". He is one of three. The other two being Skull Kid and Ganondorf. Ganondorf still reigns dominant due to two out of the three games of the "Child Timeline", he was the main villain.

Ok guys, its time to come to a close with the Numbered Stages Poll. We can all now confirm that we will have 6 Stages for the Zelda series

Now, its time to start voting on the stages themselves. This is going to be a long list. By the way, since we voted for 6 stages and currently have 2 of them playable, everyone can vote from 1 to 4 stage choices. I will scroll back a couple of pages and list down every stage that has been suggested.

If you guys want to add another candidate, please do so. Also, if you want to help me out here, you can post videos, images, sprites, drawings, etc of the stages so that we all can have a better visual on what the stage may look like.

0 votes for Great Bay (Melee)

0 votes for Hyrule Temple (Melee)

0 votes for Vaati's Sky Palace

0 votes for Ganon's Throne (Ocarina Of Time)

0 votes for Hyrule Fields (Ocarina Of Time)

0 votes for Skyloft (Skyward Sword)

0 votes for Pirate Fortress (Majora's Mask)

0 votes for Ocarina Medley (OoT, MM, LttP, WW/PH)

0 votes for Palace Of Winds (Vaati)

0 votes for Tal Tal Heights (Link's Awakening)

0 votes for Dark Link's Room (Ocarina Of Time)

0 votes for Tingle Island (Tingle's Balloon Fight)

0 votes for Tingle RupeeLand stage (Tingle's RupeeLand)

0 votes for Sealed Grounds (Skyward Sword)

0 votes for Stone Tower Temple (Majora's Mask)

0 votes for Parapa Palace (Zelda II The Adventures Of Link)

0 votes for Ocean Temple (Spirit Tracks)

0 votes for Twilight Realm (Twilight Princess)

Hyrule Temple, Ocarina Medley, Tingle's Rupeeland.

I vote
Skyloft (Skyward Sword)
Ocarina Medley (OoT, MM, LttP, WW/PH)
Twilight Realm (Twilight Princess)
Tal Tal Heights (Link's Awakening)

I'll vote for Vaati's Sky Palace, Ganon's Temple, Dark Link's Room, and Skyloft.

Great Bay (Melee)
Tingle RupeeLand stage (Tingle's RupeeLand)
Ocarina Medley (OoT, MM, LttP, WW/PH)

Great Bay, Skyloft, Hyrule Temple, Twilight Realm.

I just noticed that Dark Link's Room is there.
Hasn't it already been said that Metal Mario's stage and Dark Link's stage would not be playable, due to already being in Classic?

Hyrule Temple, Ocarina Medley, Pirate Fortress, and Skyloft