Crusade Stage Roster Discussion (Part 2)

UPDATE ON POKEMON STAGE POLL AS OF 5/12/12 @ 2:56AM


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Now, since Saffron City is already playable and is our Gen 1 rep, there will be NO More 1st Gen Stages.

This is what we will do here. We will have this 1 massive poll. They will be broken down in different categories. 7 stages have been voted by the community. Meaning that the categories will consist of Gen 2 through 5 & Spin-Offs. You can only vote 1 stage per Gen & 2 Spin Off stages. This means you can vote up to 6 stages.

You are welcome to add videos, images, decriptions, drawings, sources, arguments, etc to give the voters visual and logical reasons to support the stages you feel should get attention or not.

This poll Will Not Have A Deadline. It will close once the topic dies out.

You are also welcomed to add candidates to the poll as long as they are not strictly 1st Gen.

This took me ALOT of time to put this poll together, So PLEASE work with me here to keep things in order. Due to that, I Am Not Adding Pre-Emptive Votes At This Time. So You Will Have To Repost Your Votes, Sorry.

NOTE: Videos for each stage has been added so you can get a visual of what the stage can look like.

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Total Of 17 People Have Voted

Currently Winning:

Second Gen

1st. Burned Tower (5 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). tie between Lake Of Rage & Ruins Of Alph (4 votes)

Third Gen

1st. Sootopolis City (6 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). Mirage Tower (5 votes)

Fourth Gen

1st. Distortion World (12 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). Spear Pillar (1 vote)

Fifth Gen

1st. Dragonspiral Tower (5 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). tie between Black City/White Forest & N's Castle (3 votes)

Spin-Offs

1st. Pokemon Collosseum (12 votes)
2nd. PokeFloats 2 (10 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). Treasure Town (6 votes)
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Second Gen Candidates

5 votes for Burned Tower
video

0 votes for Bell Tower
video

4 votes for Ruins Of Alphs
video

4 votes for Lake Of Rage
video

0 votes for Whirl Islands
video

2 votes for Ilex Forest
video

Third Gen Candidates

6 votes for Sootopolis City
video

1 votes for Sky Pillar
video

0 votes for Naval Island
video

0 votes for Mt. Prye
video

0 votes for Lavaridge Hotspring
video

0 votes for Pyrite Town
video

0 votes for Cave Of Origins
video

0 votes for Slatport City
video

1 votes for Lilycove City
video

2 votes for Meteor Falls
video

0 votes for Sealed Chamber
video

5 votes for Mirage Tower
video

0 votes for Abandoned Ship
video

0 votes for Mt. Chimney
video

Fourth Gen Candidates

1 votes for Spear Pillar (Brawl Version)
video

14 votes for Distortion World
video

0 votes for Snowpoint Temple
video

0 votes for Fullmoon Island/Newmoon Island
video

Fifth Gen Candidates

0 votes for Battle Subway
video

5 votes for Dragonspiral Tower
video

3 votes for N's Castle
video

3 votes for Black City/White Forest
video

0 votes for Desert Resort
video

2 votes for Victory Road (B/W Version)
video

2 votes for Dreamyard
video

Spin-Off Candidates

6 votes for Treasure Town (Mystery Dungeon)
video

3 votes for Battle Frontier (games & anime)
video

10 votes for PokeFloats 2 (Smash Bros)
video

1 votes for Contest Hall (games & anime)
video

12 votes for Pokemon Collosseum (Pokemon Collosseum)
video

0 votes for Pokemon Island (Pokemon Snap)
video

I also vote for pokemon colloseum.

2nd - Lake of Rage
3rd - Mirage Tower
4th - Distortion World
5th - Victory Road
Spin-off 1 - PokeFloats 2
Spin-off 2 - Pokemon Colosseum

perfecthell4 wrote:

2nd - Lake of Rage
3rd - Mirage Tower
4th - Distortion World
5th - Victory Road
Spin-off 1 - PokeFloats 2
Spin-off 2 - Pokemon Colosseum

I'll vote for those as well

Switching from Ruins of Alph to Burned Tower. I cannot let Lake of Rage win.

Also switch Dreamyard to Victory Road, as that doesn't seem to stand a chance at the moment...

Changing my vote from Spear Pillar to Distortion World

Changing my vote from Lilycove City to Mirage Tower

UPDATE ON POKEMON STAGE POLL AS OF 5/13/12 @ 2:54AM


Please Read

Now, since Saffron City is already playable and is our Gen 1 rep, there will be NO More 1st Gen Stages.

This is what we will do here. We will have this 1 massive poll. They will be broken down in different categories. 7 stages have been voted by the community. Meaning that the categories will consist of Gen 2 through 5 & Spin-Offs. You can only vote 1 stage per Gen & 2 Spin Off stages. This means you can vote up to 6 stages.

You are welcome to add videos, images, decriptions, drawings, sources, arguments, etc to give the voters visual and logical reasons to support the stages you feel should get attention or not.

This poll Will Not Have A Deadline. It will close once the topic dies out.

You are also welcomed to add candidates to the poll as long as they are not strictly 1st Gen.

This took me ALOT of time to put this poll together, So PLEASE work with me here to keep things in order. Due to that, I Am Not Adding Pre-Emptive Votes At This Time. So You Will Have To Repost Your Votes, Sorry.
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Total Of 19 People Have Voted

Currently Winning:

Second Gen

1st. tie between Lake Of Rage & Burned Tower (6 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). Ruins Of Alph (3 votes)

Third Gen

1st. Mirage Tower (8 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). Sootopolis City (6 votes)

Fourth Gen

1st. Distortion World (12 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). rest of 4th Gen stages (0 vote)

Fifth Gen

1st. Dragonspiral Tower & Victory Road (5 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). tie between Black City/White Forest & N's Castle (3 votes)

Spin-Offs

1st. Pokemon Collosseum (15 votes)
2nd. PokeFloats 2 (12 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). Treasure Town (6 votes)
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Second Gen Candidates

6 votes for Burned Tower
video

0 votes for Bell Tower
video

3 votes for Ruins Of Alphs
video

6 votes for Lake Of Rage
video

0 votes for Whirl Islands
video

2 votes for Ilex Forest
video

Third Gen Candidates

6 votes for Sootopolis City
video

1 votes for Sky Pillar
video

0 votes for Naval Island
video

0 votes for Mt. Prye
video

0 votes for Lavaridge Hotspring
video

0 votes for Pyrite Town
video

0 votes for Cave Of Origins
video

0 votes for Slatport City
video

0 votes for Lilycove City
video

2 votes for Meteor Falls
video

0 votes for Sealed Chamber
video

8 votes for Mirage Tower
video

0 votes for Abandoned Ship
video

0 votes for Mt. Chimney
video

Fourth Gen Candidates

0 votes for Spear Pillar (Brawl Version)
video

17 votes for Distortion World
video

0 votes for Snowpoint Temple
video

0 votes for Fullmoon Island/Newmoon Island
video

Fifth Gen Candidates

0 votes for Battle Subway
video

5 votes for Dragonspiral Tower
video

3 votes for N's Castle
video

3 votes for Black City/White Forest
video

0 votes for Desert Resort
video

5 votes for Victory Road (B/W Version)
video

1 votes for Dreamyard
video

Spin-Off Candidates

6 votes for Treasure Town (Mystery Dungeon)
video

3 votes for Battle Frontier (games & anime)
video

12 votes for PokeFloats 2 (Smash Bros)
video

1 votes for Contest Hall (games & anime)
video

15 votes for Pokemon Collosseum (Pokemon Collosseum)
video

0 votes for Pokemon Island (Pokemon Snap)
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I would like my votes to change...

Sootopolis City to Mirage Tower
Black City/White Forest to Dragonspiral Tower

I'd like to change my N's Castle vote to Victory Road (B/W Version)

Why is sootopolis losing ;_;
It's the city where the climax of R/S/E occurs, and was in all three Hoenn games.
Groudon and Kyogre could be in the background, changing the foreground heavily and slightly during the battles, due to flooding and drought. Rayquaza could also appear and make them rest for a normal stage as a possibility.

The only logic I see for Mirage Tower is that the floors could break (which I find hard to implement and have a usable layout) and that it's a desert stage, which could be easily done with Mach Rider.

Because it's another 'legendary attacks the stage' stage, like Distortion World, Burned Tower (Possibly), and Dragonspiral Tower. It's unoriginal. Throw in the fact that SSF2 thought of it first (Though generally irrelevent, it makes it even less original), and no wonder it's losing.

Mirage Tower is in the lead not because of being a desert stage, but because of the potential of an original and unique layout. The stage crumbles as the match goes on, leaving nothing but a simple stage after some time. The perfect counterpick for all of those competitive types around here.
I see Mach Rider's stage fitting the 'desert' stereotype better (Sakurai'd to have quicksand and stuff), but I still want Mirage Tower.

...changing vote from Black City to Victory Road, then...

Vote Change:
Ruins of Alp was Ilex
Meteor Falls Same
Distortion World same
Victory Road was Black City
Poke Collosium
Poke Floats 2

Yeti Dk wrote:

Vote Change:
Ruins of Alp was Ilex
Meteor Falls Same
Distortion World same
Victory Road was Black City
Poke Collosium
Poke Floats 2

Are you saying that you want to change your vote to what is previously was?

SmashKing201 wrote:

Yeti Dk wrote:

Vote Change:
Ruins of Alp was Ilex
Meteor Falls Same
Distortion World same
Victory Road was Black City
Poke Collosium
Poke Floats 2

Are you saying that you want to change your vote to what is previously was?

No I was removing the hastle of you having to look back to find my votes.

Yeti Dk wrote:

SmashKing201 wrote:

Yeti Dk wrote:

Vote Change:
Ruins of Alp was Ilex
Meteor Falls Same
Distortion World same
Victory Road was Black City
Poke Collosium
Poke Floats 2

Are you saying that you want to change your vote to what is previously was?

No I was removing the hastle of you having to look back to find my votes.

I really do appreciate the concern of me scrolling pages back, but you kinda threw me off on the "was" part. lol.

UPDATE ON POKEMON STAGE POLL AS OF 5/14/12 @ 12:17AM


Please Read

Now, since Saffron City is already playable and is our Gen 1 rep, there will be NO More 1st Gen Stages.

This is what we will do here. We will have this 1 massive poll. They will be broken down in different categories. 7 stages have been voted by the community. Meaning that the categories will consist of Gen 2 through 5 & Spin-Offs. You can only vote 1 stage per Gen & 2 Spin Off stages. This means you can vote up to 6 stages.

You are welcome to add videos, images, decriptions, drawings, sources, arguments, etc to give the voters visual and logical reasons to support the stages you feel should get attention or not.

This poll Will Not Have A Deadline. It will close once the topic dies out.

You are also welcomed to add candidates to the poll as long as they are not strictly 1st Gen.
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Total Of 19 People Have Voted

Currently Winning:

Second Gen

1st. tie between Lake Of Rage & Burned Tower (6 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). Ruins Of Alph (4 votes)

Third Gen

1st. Mirage Tower (9 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). Sootopolis City (5 votes)

Fourth Gen

1st. Distortion World (12 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). rest of 4th Gen stages (0 vote)

Fifth Gen

1st. Victory Road (8 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). Dragonspiral Tower (6 votes)

Spin-Offs

1st. Pokemon Collosseum (16 votes)
2nd. PokeFloats 2 (13 votes)
Runner Up (still losing). Treasure Town (6 votes)
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Second Gen Candidates

6 votes for Burned Tower
video

0 votes for Bell Tower
video

4 votes for Ruins Of Alphs
video

6 votes for Lake Of Rage
video

0 votes for Whirl Islands
video

1 votes for Ilex Forest
video

Third Gen Candidates

5 votes for Sootopolis City
video

1 votes for Sky Pillar
video

0 votes for Naval Island
video

0 votes for Mt. Prye
video

0 votes for Lavaridge Hotspring
video

0 votes for Pyrite Town
video

0 votes for Cave Of Origins
video

0 votes for Slatport City
video

0 votes for Lilycove City
video

2 votes for Meteor Falls
video

0 votes for Sealed Chamber
video

9 votes for Mirage Tower
video

0 votes for Abandoned Ship
video

0 votes for Mt. Chimney
video

Fourth Gen Candidates

0 votes for Spear Pillar (Brawl Version)
video

17 votes for Distortion World
video

0 votes for Snowpoint Temple
video

0 votes for Fullmoon Island/Newmoon Island
video

Fifth Gen Candidates

0 votes for Battle Subway
video

6 votes for Dragonspiral Tower
video

2 votes for N's Castle
video

0 votes for Black City/White Forest
video

0 votes for Desert Resort
video

8 votes for Victory Road (B/W Version)
video

1 votes for Dreamyard
video

Spin-Off Candidates

6 votes for Treasure Town (Mystery Dungeon)
video

3 votes for Battle Frontier (games & anime)
video

13 votes for PokeFloats 2 (Smash Bros)
video

1 votes for Contest Hall (games & anime)
video

16 votes for Pokemon Collosseum (Pokemon Collosseum)
video

0 votes for Pokemon Island (Pokemon Snap)
video

Change my vote for Lake of Rage to Burned Tower.

Entei DEMANDS it.

No problem Entei, will add it on the next update

Does anyone else want to change votes or add any?

I'll probably give this another day or 2. I would close it now, but I feel that all the drama distracted this topic lately.

Ok, Since the Pokemon stage series discussion died out, I'm going to close the poll and begin with the next.

Confirmed Pokemon Stages (Excluding Saffron City)

1. Burned Tower (2nd Gen)
2. Mirage Tower (3rd Gen)
3. Distortion World (4th Gen)
4. Victory Road (5th Gen)
5. Poke'Floats 2 (Smash Bros)
6. Pokemon Colosseum (Pokemon Colosseum)
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Now that the most complex series is out the way, its time to discuss the next one. Starting today, we will begin the F-Zero series. This one won't take long I'm assuming. We will start off with the Numbered Stage Poll, but we will also have a 2nd poll running along with it. We will have the Mute City Poll

Pretty much, the Mute City Poll will be a poll where we will decide if we feel that the stage should either be removed or revamped due to the massive complaints the current stage has been getting since it's debut into Crusade.

Note: When voting the Numbered Stage Poll, the number you vote for will include the current playable stages. Meaning if you vote 3 stages in total, only 1 new stage can be added since Mute City & Big Blue are already playable.

WITH THAT IN MIND LETS BEGIN:

I will start off with my vote.

3 stages

&

Revamp Mute City

3 stages
Mute City: Redone/Removed

https://projectcrusade.forumotion.com/t655-fix-remove-mute-city

Da Generic Name wrote:

Remove it. Now.
Reasons:
A. F-ZERO should only have 2 stages imo. Two stages that are veteran stages would be ridiculous. And even if it did have 3 stages, what would be the point of the two veteran stages?
B. It's an obvious battlefield clone, and even if it was revamped, it would be asteroid field with occasional foreground stages.
C. Big Blue atm is already final destination, but with a moving platform at the bottom.

It absolutely must be removed. I'm shocked that people want it kept in the game.

I had an entire topic discussing upon it

Also, if you're taking suggestions now: my vote goes to Fire Field

Ok then, well see that poll and noticing there is any votes against removing the stage and instead redoing it, then I will just eliminate the "Mute City Poll" if its ok with you guys.

@Maikeru: you can suggest stages so that I can eventually add in the polls, but I'm not really taking pre-emptive votes at this time.

SmashKing201 wrote:

Ok then, well see that poll and noticing there is any votes against removing the stage and instead redoing it, then I will just eliminate the "Mute City Poll" if its ok with you guys.

@Maikeru: you can suggest stages so that I can eventually add in the polls, but I'm not really taking pre-emptive votes at this time.

I bumped up the Mute City Poll Topic:
https://projectcrusade.forumotion.com/t655-fix-remove-mute-city#20490

We can continue to count the votes from there till may 20th

Fair enough Maikeru. So if anyone wants to vote or against Mute City check out the link Maikeru posted.

Anyways, this is where we are so far for the Numbered Stages for the F-Zero series.

2 votes for 3 stages.

2 stages. F-zero isn't really deserving of more than 2 stages.

Also, Sliss posted his idea for a Mute City revamp.
https://projectcrusade.forumotion.com/t873-mute-city-concept

I'll go with 3, and obviously revamp Mute City.

3 stages, revamp Mute City.

2 Stages
Revamp Mute City

3 stages

destroy Mute City