Zelda [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion

Discuss whether or not you think Zelda should be added to Super Smash Bros. Crusade.

first!!

If Zelda doesn't end up in Crusade then you done goofed

What? She's not already in? She NEEDS to be in Crusade no matter what she is an essential LoZ rep.

I don't know man I think Tingle is more important

We need more Zelda characters, and Zelda is one of the characters from this franchise I'm hoping for alongside Sheik and Skull Kid.

About design for her, I'd prefer her original look from Ocarina of Time. And, about moveset, there's no trouble XD

Dustination wrote:

I don't know man I think Tingle is more important

LOL no. Tingle can burn in hell.

So yeah, I want Zelda to be playable, and I want her to replace Tingle.

TrinitroMan wrote:

Dustination wrote:

I don't know man I think Tingle is more important

LOL no. Tingle can burn in hell.

So yeah, I want Zelda to be playable, and I want her to replace Tingle.

You realize Tingle is the 2nd most important character of the series, if not the 1st?

TO BE FAIR, Tingle is the most recurring character in the series besides the obvious ones and Impa. And he is the only character to have his own game besides the obvious.

Anyway less about Tingle more about Zelda.

Phantom Slash or no?

Phantom Slash should be given to Toon Zelda instead, because Toon Zelda is canonically capable of that.
TP Zelda should instead use for her Down Special something that actually is possible in TP (maybe even replace her other specials since those belong to OoT canonically).

TrinitroMan wrote:

Phantom Slash should be given to Toon Zelda instead, because Toon Zelda is canonically capable of that.
TP Zelda should instead use for her Down Special something that actually is possible in TP (maybe even replace her other specials since those belong to OoT canonically).

Why exactly does Crusade need to be canon with Zelda if Smash itself isn't?

I'm not saying that all of Zelda's specials have to be replaced. I only said that they could be replaced.
Down Special, though, I'm sure we can come up with something from Twilight Princess instead that Zelda could possibly use.
If everything else fails, then we could still just reuse her Smash 4 Down Special, but I rather want that to be Plan B.

TrinitroMan wrote:

I'm not saying that all of Zelda's specials have to be replaced. I only said that they could be replaced.
Down Special, though, I'm sure we can come up with something from Twilight Princess instead that Zelda could possibly use.
If everything else fails, then we could still just reuse her Smash 4 Down Special, but I rather want that to be Plan B.

Twilight Princess Zelda's design is one of her most iconic. Of course the DESIGN would be used.

It's pretty obvious Zelda's MOVESET is supposed to represent Zelda as a CHARACTER, and NOT Twilight Princess.

And then they use the Skyward Sword design

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Support for Zelda.

Add Sheik as her alternate form or as a separate character if possible.

Also, please make Zelda's Down Special as Phantom Slash, not changing her form.

I still think Transform should still be a thing.

Because separating Zelda and Sheik is a [esports] move by anybody ever.

No, remove the transform. TP Zelda could never transform in Shiek in the original Twilight Princess anyway.

Solution: Have OOT Zelda instead.

Because Transform really absolutely positively needs to still be a thing.

No, no it doesn't.

This is so exhausting

Sakurai himself doesn't care about how TP Zelda uses "noncanon moves", why should we.

Well, some of you guys do care about canonity too much. *points at Mellon*
For once, canonity would bring something good, because Transform is a waste of a Down B in my opinion.

TrinitroMan wrote:

Well, some of you guys do care about canonity too much. *points at Mellon*
For once, canonity would bring something good, because Transform is a waste of a Down B in my opinion.

*points at you because you have been bringing the most pointless canon arguments into this thread and im sure many more*
And if we do make it not Transform, make it Phantom Slash which is standalone Zelda's SSB4 Down Special.

Obvious support, but PLEASE find a way to break her losing streak ova always being a below average character like she is in all the other Smash games.

I feel Zelda would be a fun character to have in Crusade. If you guys keep her the same way she is in Sm4sh it would be greatly appreciated if the Up B is not a killing move. Too many people relying on Up B spam on For Fun *shivers*. The Project M take of it having little hitstun but allowing Zelda to act out of it if she lands with it for combo follow ups would be a better approach imo.
Phantom Slash also should be stored like Samus' Charge Shot *nod*

If you guys want a different Zelda like the Ganondorf you have, you could add some Hyrule warriors flashiness with Light Arrows and sword stabs, but that might be better for a "Different incarnation of Zelda" to be playable beside the normal sm4sh one and that's tons of work in another area. Like having an OoT!Ganondorf that uses magic and a TP!Ganondorf that uses the sword, that might be just too much work to even consider.

B-b-but Up B being a killing move is that one thing that stops Zelda from being complete shit in terms of competitiveness.

Too much of a side character IMO. Why would we want to add a deliberate low tier anyways?

*gasp*
S-s-side character?
She's the one to give this franchise her name in the first place!
She's Link's main goal in 2/3 of all the Zelda games.
She's incredibily integral to the story, being the wielder of a Triforce and having multiple reincarnations, just like Link.

She's not playable, she's not a major antagonist, obv side character bois. She doesn't really do much either tbh, I mean considering the iteration of Zelda we'd add.

Besides my second point still stands.

TrinitroMan wrote:

*gasp*
S-s-side character?
She's the one to give this franchise her name in the first place!
She's Link's main goal in 2/3 of all the Zelda games.
She's incredibily integral to the story, being the wielder of a Triforce and having multiple reincarnations, just like Link.

Obviously Tingle is more important.

Just keep her Smash 4 moveset. Maybe give her the Hyrule Warriors look, or keep Twilight Princess. IDK. But you can't have Link and Ganon without Zelda. The series is named after her ffs. And who cares about teirs? #TeirsR4Queers