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PostSubject: Re: Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion   Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 02, 2016 4:10 pm

As said, not in Crusade. And not a a FS, a normal weapon. It'll be bigger than Cloud's
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Young Link needs to be in Super Smash Bros. Crusade. You don't need to change anything, just give him his moves from Super Smash Bros. Melee and you're in. For a Final Smash, have him put on that mask he uses to fight Majora's Mask with and transform him into that other Link for a brief period.
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PostSubject: Re: Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion   Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 17, 2016 11:52 pm

UcheD914 wrote:
You don't need to change anything, just give him his moves from Super Smash Bros. Melee and you're in.
Yes, they don't need to change anything, but the thing is: Young Link is a clone in Melee, and Crusade really hates cases of character cloens where the moveset could have been better
So naturally, they will change Young Link's moveset to be centered around the masks, because let's face it: That's what Young Link should have been from the beginning for fans (even if that wasn't Sakurai's intention behind Young Link).
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PostSubject: Re: Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion   Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 18, 2016 9:18 am

TrinitroMan wrote:
UcheD914 wrote:
You don't need to change anything, just give him his moves from Super Smash Bros. Melee and you're in.
Yes, they don't need to change anything, but the thing is: Young Link is a clone in Melee, and Crusade really hates cases of character cloens where the moveset could have been better
So naturally, they will change Young Link's moveset to be centered around the masks, because let's face it: That's what Young Link should have been from the beginning for fans (even if that wasn't Sakurai's intention behind Young Link).
Are you saying that he should be based more on the Mojora's Mask incarnation?
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PostSubject: Re: Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion   Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 18, 2016 9:24 pm

UcheD914 wrote:

Are you saying that he should be based more on the Mojora's Mask incarnation?

That or at the very least his Hyrule Warriors incarnation

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PostSubject: Re: Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion   Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 19, 2016 1:21 pm

UcheD914 wrote:
Young Link needs to be in Super Smash Bros. Crusade. You don't need to change anything, just give him his moves from Super Smash Bros. Melee and you're in. For a Final Smash, have him put on that mask he uses to fight Majora's Mask with and transform him into that other Link for a brief period.
Uh no you do need to change things. You could make him so much more unique by making him utilizing his transformation masks and Young Link-only things from OoT and MM. We do NOT need or want from what I see the Melee moveset
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PostSubject: Re: Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion   Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 20, 2016 6:52 am

I finally could complete my Young Link full moveset, I won't post the specials because I alredy gave them before.

-Jab: Same as in melee, including the sword combo too, when you let go the button ''A'' he'll do a last hit, like the multi jabs in Smash 4.
-Side Tilt: He hits with his shield, from the front of the camera to the background, vertically in 180 degrees approximately, if timed right, it can reflect projectiles.
-Up Tilt: He covers with his Hylian Shield (like a Turtle on his shell), can be held for a while, during this only close strong hits can hurt him, projectiles shoot from any direction except from down will be reflected back. Works better against attacks that are coming upwards.
-Down Tilt: He hits with a Deku Stick 3 times with his left hand, last hit is with his sword, which he holds with his right hand and it can spike.
-Dash Attack: Assuming Link's dash attack is changed like the one he has in Melee/Brawl, he would do a somerassault and if you press a again he would attack with his sword. In case Link's dash attack doesn't change, it would be Young Link's dash attack in Melee.
-Side Smash: Same as Link's dash attack in Smash 4, but he holds his sword with both hands and it can do a meteor smash.
-Up Smash: Link holds his shield between his shoulder and neck facing upwards, and hits it with his sword's handle, as he does a short hop, if someone is hit by the shield(it does a bit of knockback and like 5% of damage), Young Link will do a surprise attack and hit with his sword in 180 degrees.
-Up Smash(alt): Does a 90 degree slash with good killing power, it is followed by a 180 degree fast slash. Similar to Toon Link's Up Smash in Project M.
-Down Smash: Din's Fire. Link crouchs and slams his left fist into the ground, creating a fire barrier that not only stops any projectiles throw at him (they burn), but it does lot of damage too. However, it has lot of startup and ending lag.
-Neutral Air: Does a kick like in Melee.
-Side Air:Does a 135 degrees attack (approximately) with his Razor Sword (https://2img.net/h/i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s628/Bukkitfox/razorsword_zps0fafbb00.png~original), the attack is slow, but it's powerful and a good kill move. It also has noticiable landing lag.
-Back Air:He does two kicks backward, like in Melee.
-Down Air:Like in Melee, it has the OP Fire Meteor Smash aswell.
-Up Air:Young Link pulls out his Slingshot and shoots a Deku Nut. It will fall even if it goes off screen after going a bit up. In the air, it is a good killing technique, but if the nut touchs someone in the ground, it will force the opponent to go into a stun state for some seconds, except if it shields, reflects or blocks.
-Side Throw: Kicks his opponent forward and launches a sword forward, reference to the original Legend of Zelda for NES.
-Back Throw: Kicks his opponent backward, then throws his boomerang which pushes his opponent off stage, returns after some time and Young Link can't use his boomerang during the backthrow until it returns.
-Up Throw: Throws his opponent to the air and then does his spinning attack, which multi-hits and then sends in an upward trajectory.
-Down Throw: Since Link and Toon Link's throws changed, Young Link can use his classic thrown from Melee.
-Tether Recovery: Uses his Hookshot, compared to Link and T. Link's versions, he can grab any wall from the stage, similar to Melee.

-Final Smash: Puts his Fierce Deity mask and transforms while screaming. During this form he can do a basic combo sequence with A he does a basic combo ( https://youtu.be/QUR1eYIoRTc?t=5m8s ) with B he slashes and ''beams'' are shoot (this https://youtu.be/jeY5yOT5jsc?t=1m3s ) and with A+B he does an ultimate attack https://youtu.be/dnBhmWsnQa4?t=11m3s and after that the transformation runs out immediately.-

-Taunt: Drinks a bottle of milk, recovers 3% or 5%.
-Secret Taunt: By Pressing Down+Taunt button, he pulls out the Ocarina Zelda gave him, you can emit sounds with the C-Stick keys and A and B, press Taunt button again to pull off.
-Victory Animation: https://youtu.be/0Evahua-3mw?t=7m29s
-Lose Animation:
Claps

Now I have a question for you guys, what voice could he use if he were to get in the game? OoT, MM and Melee's sounds or Hyrule Warriors' new voice actor/actress?
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PostSubject: Re: Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion   Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 15, 2016 1:29 pm

You know...this is my problem with Young Link suggestions: despite all the attention the 3D Zelda games get already in Smash (playable Sheik and Ganondorf but no Ganon, Zelda using magic only from Ocarina of time, Link and Toon Link using weapons from basically every game rather than specific ones aside from the Gale Boomerang and in Crusade, the Hidden Skills, which are both from Twilight Princess), the 2D games are largely ignored. Rather than being yet another clone of Link or solely representing yet another 3D game, Young Link gives us the perfect opportunity to fix this issue (alongside Ganon, if he gets in). And just to prove how much I want this, I will create a full moveset for him much like I did with Heihachi and Monokuma. Gonna treat this like a character suggestion in the Unofficial characters thread:

To kill two birds with one stone, Young Link would wield the Razor Sword from Majora's Mask and the Magic Shield from Zelda 1 (the one with the cross). Like the other Links, Young Link excels at using projectiles...however, he takes it to a more extreme extent, as he has many, many different projectiles and options to choose from compared to Link/Toon Link, can equip different masks to change certain attacks, and can use his grab of all things for better stage control and edgeguarding. His close combat, however, is rather poor to make up for this (though the Goron Mask somewhat helps), and his light weight coupled with an average fall speed makes him pretty easy to KO when approached. Overall, Young Link is a highly complicated version of Link with a higher learning curve, and a well-balanced homage to the 2D Zelda games, Majora's Mask, and his Melee iteration all in one.

Moveset:
 

There, that way Young Link reps Majora's Mask really well while also representing the classics. Moveset's a bit complex, but it's just a suggestion anyway. Plus I really enjoy making these.
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PostSubject: Re: Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion   Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 15, 2016 1:44 pm

Well then. That has changed my mood on (re)introducing Young Link. As Toon Link is not being used as Link's Alt, I wouldn't mind Young Link as an Alt with that moveset, even if the Mask part was not included (mainly due to spriting all of them). Surprised that you managed to turn Young Link from a full-on clone to a non-clone (Maybe a Derivative at most)
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PostSubject: Re: Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion   Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 15, 2016 1:55 pm

I mostly just included the mask parts to please everybody, really. If it were up to me I'd skip out on repping Majora's Mask altogether honestly in favor of every single 2D game that's been ignored, but that's just me apparently...Guess I'm the only one who sees "Young Link" as less of a Majora's Mask character and more of a Link to the Past character I suppose.
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PostSubject: Re: Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion   Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 19, 2016 7:06 am

I see the moveset and I like it.
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Chaotic Chao wrote:
I mostly just included the mask parts to please everybody, really. If it were up to me I'd skip out on repping Majora's Mask altogether honestly in favor of every single 2D game that's been ignored, but that's just me apparently...Guess I'm the only one who sees "Young Link" as less of a Majora's Mask character and more of a Link to the Past character I suppose.

Aren't Young Link's only true appearances in OoT and Majora's Mask? Isn't the Link from LttP just flat-out Link?
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OmegaSteve777 wrote:

Aren't Young Link's only true appearances in OoT and Majora's Mask? Isn't the Link from LttP just flat-out Link?
Technically yes, but from what I can recall, the Link from the NES and SNES games was still a "Child Link", so it wouldn't be completely wrong to call him "Young Link"
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PostSubject: Re: Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion   Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion - Page 2 EmptyWed Jul 03, 2019 10:07 am

Well,I think, like with Shantae, his Neutral Special could be based on transformation. In his case, he could use Deku, Zora, or Goron Masks, depending the direction you press when you use this Special.
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PostSubject: Re: Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion   Young Link [The Legend of Zelda] Discussion - Page 2 EmptyThu Jul 04, 2019 9:59 am

MarioStrikerMurphy1994 wrote:
Well,I think, like with Shantae, his Neutral Special could be based on transformation.


As a Dev, i can confirm that we are not going to tackle new characters the same way Shantae was handled. It proved too time consuming to make idle, walk, jump, etc. for every transformation, even with the limited move pool.

MarioStrikerMurphy1994 wrote:
In his case, he could use Deku, Zora, or Goron Masks, depending the direction you press when you use this Special.

That's more reasonable/feasible. Something like Deku doing up B with the flowers, Zora doing the scale-boomerang toss with neutral Special and Goron doing Roll-out for his Side B

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