Assist Trophies General Discussion

TrinitroMan wrote:

Mellon wrote:

Axtran wrote:

I vote for the Angry Birds. Each one would hop into the slingshot, point towards an enemy, fire, and use its special ability.

No. Never. Fuck Rovio, it's probably one of the worst game companies I know.

I hope you're ready for a beating! *cracks fists*

Wait lemme just grab my Angry Birds T-Shirt, Angry Birds underwear, Angry Birds Plush, Angry Birds Mug and Angry Birds Golfballs, then you can 1v1 me in the Angry Birds Boardgame (Seriously Rovio stop breathing)

When's Super Smash Angry Birds Melee, though?

After many months of nothing, I finally got some updated the damn thread

-Three new ones for Castlevania
-New one for Final Fantasy
-Three new ones for the new series, Shantae
-Two of Roy's old suggestions are added (Ace Attorney and Wario Ware Inc.)
-A super-duper special character in the Other section.

I think that this thread needs more exposure.
Let me fix this by simply posting in it, because I don't really have any new ideas right now.
Although I do think that the Angry Birds assist trophy is unique and fun enough to be included, even though it's Angry Birds. Like seriously, it's dumb to not include something simply because of its brand.
It's not like Angry Birds is an H-game or something, and it actually sells quite well not only on phones, but also on consoles, so I don't see any problem there.

This thread isn't getting exposure likely because AT's aren't even in game yet or said to be planned

added a new one from Castlevania

Edit: added a new one for Other

Frankly, I don't want to see Assist Trophies in Crusade.

Here are my reasons:

I don't like the Assist Trophies because they break the ballance, some of them can be annoying even for the one who summoned it (like Nintendog), some of them are very useless, and also turn to certain good characters which we want to playable in it, leaving us dissappointed (like with Isaac, Waluigi, Ashley, Takamaru, etc.).

If there's a reason why I support too much Crusade is because we can find with several cool characters, and make me see that Sakurai is absolutely wrong about certain characters (I don't know if he hates some characters for don't including them, or WTF...); so, excuse me, but, I don't want Assist Trophies in Crusade...

MarioStrikerMurphy1994 wrote:

Frankly, I don't want to see Assist Trophies in Crusade.

Here are my reasons:

I don't like the Assist Trophies because they break the ballance, some of them can be annoying even for the one who summoned it (like Nintendog), some of them are very useless, and also turn to certain good characters which we want to playable in it, leaving us dissappointed (like with Isaac, Waluigi, Ashley, Takamaru, etc.).

If there's a reason why I support too much Crusade is because we can find with several cool characters, and make me see that Sakurai is absolutely wrong about certain characters (I don't know if he hates some characters for don't including them, or WTF...); so, excuse me, but, I don't want Assist Trophies in Crusade...

If you play with items on you basically sign a contract saying it's time for no balance and a good time

I don't understand what else you're trying to say. Assist Trophies being characters who can become playable in the future is not at all a problem, because with Crusade it does not require the amount of work it takes to remove an Assist Trophy. Just release a patch and boom the AT's gone and is now a new character.

From what I see the reason you don't want them in is because you don't like the Brawl/SSB4 incarnations of them which may or may not be how Crusade would/will do it.

Waluigi and Ashley are even playable in Crusade so that takes away from your point a bit.

"I don't like the Assist Trophies because they break the ballance"

Hey look, what's that? *GASP* There's an option where you can actually remove the Assist Trophies, even if you have the items on!

BTW, Crusade has Pokeballs

VultureDuck wrote:

Smash King wrote:

The Bartender from Tappers would be a fun Assist Trophy. lol. He appears with an extended bar table and launches root beer. lol.

Tempura Shrimp Party wrote:

Miru (Pac-Man): Wanders randomly around the stage. If she touches a character, she will drag him/her off past the blast lines.

Evil Otto and Robots (Berzerk): Robots from Berzerk appear, firing shots towards players. The shots go in 8 directions, and cause a good amount of damage. Evil Otto will show up near the end, bouncing around the stage and dealing heavy damage to fighters.

Yorgle (Atari Adventure): Yorgle will move around the stage. When he makes contact with a fighter, he will try to eat said fighter. Victims will have 0.75 seconds to move out of the way, or they are eaten. When eaten, trapped fighters will accumulate damage a la Lip's Stick. Before he disappears, Yorgle will spit out any eaten fighters, most likely launching them a good distance.

Post like these really saves me the trouble.

The rep I really need help is the Fire Emblem series.

I can give you some Awakening and Fates stuff, not good with older games

Felicia (PLEASE): Spawns with a plate and dashes forward, before tripping; the plate flies forward, and if it hits an enemy, it dazes them like it broke their shield.

Ryoma and Xander: Ryoma spawns at one end of the stage, and Xander spawns at the other. They dash forward towards eachother, juggling any opponent caught by their dash along with them, before connecting their swords, causing an explosion which wounds any nearby enemies.

Sumia: Spawns in the sky before swooping down and grabbing for an enemy. If she grabs one, she beats them up before clumsily dropping them, stunning the enemy.

Olivia: Spawns and dances, which boosts the stats of all characters and causes them to do all actions twice as fast.

Kellam: Seems to not spawn after you use the assist trophy...until he appears behind an opponent and TERRIFIES them, before smashing them with a spear.


There's 5 for you!

Oh, this thread is a thing. They're a bit unconventional, but Adon and Samson from Cho Aniki could be cool - their original appearance was as muscular, sexy Gradius options (though without the spinning, they just stayed above and below you and shot when you did), so having them sorta follow you around and shoot every time you attack would work nicely.

Red Arremer from the Ghosts 'n' Goblins series would also be good - have one show up and start doing its standard asshole pattern of swooping and launching fireballs while darting all over the screen.

As crazy as it sounds...I would not even be mad if we get an Assist Trophy based on Cho Aniki.
However, if we include an Assist Trophy based on Cho Aniki, then we should also include an Assist Trophy based on Gourmet Sentai - Bara Yarou (AKA that food-themed Cho Aniki beat'em'up).

If Jacket gets in, Biker should rep Hotline Miami as an assist. He would be kind of a hybrid of his boss and playable versions, keeping a steady distance from all playable characters until either charging with his meat cleaver or tossing one of his throwing knives. Once he tosses all 3 of his knives, he hops on his motorcycle and drives off the battlefield (damaging anyone he hits with the bike, of course).

Also, I still think that Crusade needs at least some mobile phone representation.
I mean, Angry Birds is the best-selling mobile phone game. So why not accept the Angry Birds Assist Trophy idea? Simply out of spite? Because that's not very professional.

Something about not wanting memes in a game that has Weegee

Kzinssie wrote:

Something about not wanting memes in a game that has Weegee

Something about the old devs having added him over 5 years ago
Please stop

Really I'm just kind of not a fan of labeling popular characters "meme characters". Frisk isn't a meme character, Freddy Fazbear isn't a meme character, Angry Birds aren't meme characters. Find better arguments against their inclusion, because this is a game that has Weegee, Ridley, and Waluigi. ("Meme Character" seems to translate to "character I personally don't like" anyway)

Why not have a Luma, where they float around and give out either, Super Mushrooms if the summoner is close by, a poison mushroom if a foe is close by, or spit Star Pieces if no one is close, these go for a medium amount of distance (half of final destination) and when at full length falls to the ground and can be picked up and thrown.

Kzinssie wrote:

Really I'm just kind of not a fan of labeling popular characters "meme characters". Frisk isn't a meme character, Freddy Fazbear isn't a meme character, Angry Birds aren't meme characters. Find better arguments against their inclusion, because this is a game that has Weegee, Ridley, and Waluigi. ("Meme Character" seems to translate to "character I personally don't like" anyway)

I've made it extremely clear I don't like the meme character philosophy either lad

That wasn't really targeted at you, just observing the general attitude

Yeah, if Kzinssie was targetting anyone with that, then it was Mellon, who stated his attitude in page 4 and 5 of this exact thread.

I have one idea to go with my request for Freedom Planet's Lilac to be playable

Neera Li: Similarly to Freedom Planet, Neera Li drops from the air, releasing a shower of ice that has a chance of freezing opponents. After landing on the ground, Neera will attack one side, releasing a boomerang-like ice projectile that goes through opponents. After doing that a few times, she will jump to another part of the stage and repeat for 3 or 4 times. Like most Smash 4 Assist Trophies, She could be defeated, though damaging her enough will make her jump into the air and release a second "Ice Rain"

Edit: Also realized that you have Lilac listed as an assist trophy... This is awkward (but very funny )

Mallow (Mario) - Casts his spell "Snowy." It causes a snowman to fall from above and explode, freezing anyone nearby.
Swooping Snitchbug (Pikmin) - Grabs opponents and throws them down into the ground causing them to be buried underground.
New Age Retro Hippie (Earthbound) - Runs into opponents. Sometimes pulls out toothbrush to brush his teeth or take out a ruler to measure things.
Huffin' Puffin (Yoshi) - If you jump on it or attack it you can use it's babies as projectiles.
Red Bulborb (Pikmin) - Works like the enemy from Smash Run.
Gruntilda (Banjo-Kazooie) - Flies around on her broom casting spells.
Cactuar (Final Fantasy) - Fires 1000 needles at the nearest opponent.

Three months...

added OmegaSteve's suggestions & Roy's old ones

Massif Bros (Mario and Luigi Dream Team) - They team up using the techniques they taught the Mario Bros to smash their opponents; The Spin Jump, Side Drill, and Ball Hop. both characters take damage, and if one is ko'ed, the assist trophy ends

Endou and Gouenji (Inazuma Eleven) both characters will move to opposite sides of the stage before Gouenji starts his practice shots with Fire Tornado. After 5 shots, both Endou and Gouenji will team up for one more shot, the Inazuma Ichigo

JoJo (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) - One of the JoJo's from part 1-8 (still need to read 7 - eight) will come and run around trying to hit a opponent. If they land a hit, they will stand rush (minus Jonathan/Joseph/Giorno) them. Each one has a different effect. Jonathan will use the Sunlight Yellow Overdrive, nothing special. Joseph will use Hermit Purple to trap a opponent and Hamon Overdrive them. Jotaro will freeze time after a successive hit and stand rush the opponent. Josuke will heal the opponent fully before stand rushing them to their previous health + 30%. Giorno will walk around aimlessly. But if he is attacked, he will counter the attack with a frog that transfers the damage back before stand rushing them. Jolyne will stand rush the opponent, launch them, and use her stand to pull said opponent back before being rushed again

What do you think? I know having 8 characters to a single AT seems off, but it was ether that, or 8 JJBA assists or the worst option. A single character from JoJo (assuming JJBA would ever be considered for anything in Crusade)

Edited with more Assist Trophies and Giorno (forgot him)

Bomberman
Bazooka Bomber: fires his bazooka in the any direction, creating a blast that extends forward until the first obstacle.
Terrorin: He simply slows down or accelerate the
time by making everything go slow or faster

Hit1 wrote:

Massif Bros (Mario and Luigi Dream Team) - They team up using the techniques they taught the Mario Bros to smash their opponents; The Spin Jump, Side Drill, and Ball Hop. both characters take damage, and if one is ko'ed, the assist trophy ends

Endou and Gouenji (Inazuma Eleven) both characters will move to opposite sides of the stage before Gouenji starts his practice shots with Fire Tornado. After 5 shots, both Endou and Gouenji will team up for one more shot, the Inazuma Ichigo

JoJo (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) - One of the JoJo's from part 1-8 (still need to read 7 - eight) will come and run around trying to hit a opponent. If they land a hit, they will stand rush (minus Jonathan/Joseph/Giorno) them. Each one has a different effect. Jonathan will use the Sunlight Yellow Overdrive, nothing special. Joseph will use Hermit Purple to trap a opponent and Hamon Overdrive them. Jotaro will freeze time after a successive hit and stand rush the opponent. Josuke will heal the opponent fully before stand rushing them to their previous health + 30%. Giorno will walk around aimlessly. But if he is attacked, he will counter the attack with a frog that transfers the damage back before stand rushing them. Jolyne will stand rush the opponent, launch them, and use her stand to pull said opponent back before being rushed again

What do you think? I know having 8 characters to a single AT seems off, but it was ether that, or 8 JJBA assists or the worst option. A single character from JoJo (assuming JJBA would ever be considered for anything in Crusade)

Edited with more Assist Trophies and Giorno (forgot him)

SnivyKawaii wrote:

Bomberman
Bazooka Bomber: fires his bazooka in the any direction, creating a blast that extends forward until the first obstacle.
Terrorin: He simply slows down or accelerate the
time by making everything go slow or faster

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Spoiler:

Engineer: Builds a sentry to assist in battle
Spy: Turns invisible to sneak around and attack opponents
Medic: Heals you and your team.
Sniper: Throws Jarate at opponents, which will allow you to do more damage

It would be funny if Cranky acted in the same manner as Resetti from Brawl, mainly because I find his dialog to be a lot more funny and memorable. But I understand why no one would want this.

Snipes88 wrote:

[spoiler]
Engineer: Builds a sentry to assist in battle
Spy: Turns invisible to sneak around and attack opponents
Medic: Heals you and your team.
Sniper: Throws Jarate at opponents, which will allow you to do more damage

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