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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyThu Dec 26, 2013 1:50 pm

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So far, in a 6 month period, we got 20 characters confirmed.

16 veterans & 4 newcomers.

I have a feeling that with such quick progress, we might be seeing SSB4 in the 3rd or 4th quarter of 2014 the earliest.

And then something goes wrong and the game gets pushed to Spring 2015.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyThu Dec 26, 2013 3:03 pm

Why is it that every character that gets announced always leads to a massive debate?
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyThu Dec 26, 2013 3:13 pm

Mr. Terrible wrote:
Smash King wrote:
So far, in a 6 month period, we got 20 characters confirmed.

16 veterans & 4 newcomers.

I have a feeling that with such quick progress, we might be seeing SSB4 in the 3rd or 4th quarter of 2014 the earliest.

And then something goes wrong and the game gets pushed to Spring 2015.

I honestly wouldn't mind a delay if its to polish up or add anything. Afterall, this is going to be the game we will play until next gen console, which is probably another 5 - 7 years.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyFri Dec 27, 2013 3:53 am

"The pic of the day that runs Monday through Friday will be on break starting Dec. 27. I'll be back on Jan. 6, so I hope everyone has a happy new year!!"

Looks like we won't have much to discuss for the next couple of weeks.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyFri Dec 27, 2013 11:57 am

Smash King wrote:
Mr. Terrible wrote:
Smash King wrote:
So far, in a 6 month period, we got 20 characters confirmed.

16 veterans & 4 newcomers.

I have a feeling that with such quick progress, we might be seeing SSB4 in the 3rd or 4th quarter of 2014 the earliest.

And then something goes wrong and the game gets pushed to Spring 2015.

I honestly wouldn't mind a delay if its to polish up or add anything. Afterall, this is going to be the game i try briefly before playing Melee another 5-7 years

Fixed for competitive people Troll

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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyFri Dec 27, 2013 12:39 pm

LolPH4

But yea, we honestly can't complain about today's news. Sakurai has been working on this game for a year and a half now, 7 days a week I read. He definitely deserves a short break. Not to mention that we got 2 new characters, 1 new stage, 1 new assist trophy all in a 1 week period.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyMon Dec 30, 2013 10:26 am

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/12/30/balancing-bowser-in-the-new-super-smash-bros

Looks like Bowser is due to receive a Buff this generation.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyMon Dec 30, 2013 11:48 am

From the article, it sounds like Bowser is being made stronger, but slower.

Which would be a very big nerf.

I really hope I'm just reading that wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyMon Dec 30, 2013 12:47 pm

^ It does sound kind of like that. But then, he also has a lot of new attacks so we'll see what happens. I don't trust Sakurai to make a balanced cast anyway, i'm just interested in seeing who becomes the top tier.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyMon Dec 30, 2013 5:19 pm

dat bf
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyMon Dec 30, 2013 8:42 pm

Same article: Captain Falcon confirmed Troll
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyMon Dec 30, 2013 9:32 pm

Here is a more elaborate interview concerning balacing

http://nintendoeverything.com/masahiro-sakurai-talks-all-about-game-balance-in-the-new-smash-bros-games/
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyMon Dec 30, 2013 10:45 pm

Well, at least i agree with him on free-for-all balancing being tough. Damn you Weegee...
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyTue Dec 31, 2013 1:39 am

Cranky Kong wrote:
Same article: Captain Falcon confirmed Troll
Seems like it, though I don't think anybody was doubting his inclusion.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyTue Dec 31, 2013 1:43 am

I guess another thing Sakurai has to worry about is items, since they can also affect how balanced a character is. Bowser with a Pitfall is a lot more dangerous than Sonic with one, for example.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyTue Dec 31, 2013 8:31 am

Dry wrote:
I guess another thing Sakurai has to worry about is items, since they can also affect how balanced a character is. Bowser with a Pitfall is a lot more dangerous than Sonic with one, for example.
Items fit in the party game side of it, so it's not so needed to completely balance that.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyTue Dec 31, 2013 1:26 pm

Ganonthegreat wrote:
Dry wrote:
I guess another thing Sakurai has to worry about is items, since they can also affect how balanced a character is. Bowser with a Pitfall is a lot more dangerous than Sonic with one, for example.
Items fit in the party game side of it, so it's not so needed to completely balance that.

I agree, it´s not like items are balanced.

Have you seen the legendary pokemons in Melee and Brawl? Those guys beat the duck out of you and give you like 100%-300%, not to mention that some can 1 Hit KO you, like Porygon
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyTue Dec 31, 2013 2:34 pm

But neither is free-for-all. Sakurai's not just thinking about competitive balance here, he's thinking about balance in every aspect of the game.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyTue Dec 31, 2013 4:04 pm

Dry wrote:
But neither is free-for-all. Sakurai's not just thinking about competitive balance here, he's thinking about balance in every aspect of the game.

Believe it or not this is actually how we balance crusade as well, not just for competitive 1v1.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyWed Jan 01, 2014 1:57 am

in theory Troll
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Dry wrote:
in theory Troll

Don't try to confuse me the other players on the forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 4:05 pm

Shortiecanbrawl has made another poll for the year of 2014. Please vote in it for your most wanted newcomers!

http://kwiksurveys.com/s.asp?sid=4xrbu3cl1mwy6oc281132
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyMon Jan 06, 2014 4:22 am

and the crowd goes wild at the announcement of trophies


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyMon Jan 06, 2014 5:04 am

Great that they'll be back, I love collecting those little buggers.

Sakurai wrote:
Pic of the day. There will be trophies in the 3DS and Wii U games, and each version will boast different types and models. The 3DS trophies will be mainly from handhelds and the Wii U version will feature trophies from the home-console games.
Seems there'll be two different sets to collect, one for each console.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyMon Jan 06, 2014 9:08 am

Ganon Mode:
OMG Saria confirmed gaiz!
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Uncle Phil R.I.P. wrote:
Ganon Mode:
OMG Saria confirmed gaiz!
Saria conformed ez trofie. Git Hiped!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyMon Jan 06, 2014 10:49 am

If you're talking about Xerneas, all I said was that he would be the best possible representation for the new generation of Pokémon, I don't know what's wrong in that.
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And that is why you will be forever mocked.
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"Let's attack other members over an argument everyone else has forgotten!"
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion - Page 33 EmptyTue Jan 07, 2014 6:05 am

Zelda got a new Side Smash it seems, so they do appear to be changing her a bit at least. This may mean the Phantom Knight is part of her moveset, but it doesn't confirm it obviously.
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