Character Alt. Colors Discussion and Guide

I decided to make a list of what everyone's Alt. Colors are based on.

Mario
Default-Original
Blue-Color of hat, shirt and overalls switched
Green-Japanese boxart of Wrecking Crew
Yellow-Wario
Black-Flying Mario
White-Fire Mario
Brown-Based on the Brown Alt. Palette for Mario in Smash 64 and Melee. The costume itself is based on Foreman Spike.
Light Blue-Possibly based on Mario's Light Blue costume from Smash 4

Luigi
Default-Original
Pink-Luigi's appearance in Wrecking Crew
Light Blue-Mario's appearance on the American boxart for Mario Bros.
Orange-Mario's appearance on the boxart for Pinball, but his hat is orange instead of blue
Black-Flying Luigi
White-Fire Luigi
Purple-Waluigi
Blue-One of the other Luigis in the ScareScraper mode in Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon

Weegee
Default-Original
Red-Malleo
Light Blue-Mario's appearance on the American boxart for Mario Bros.
Gold-Possibly based on Gold Mario in New Super Mario Bros. 2
Black-(UNKNOWN)
Pink-(UNKNOWN)

Peach
Defaullt-Original
Red-Pauline
Blue-Alt. Color for Peach in Mario Golf
Green-Alt. Color for Peach in Mario Golf
Orange-Daisy
Black-(UNKNOWN)
White-The wedding dress she wears in the beginning of Super Paper Mario
Purple-The Shadow Queen

Toad
Currently uses default palette swaps

Bowser
Default-Original
Red-Alt. Color for Bowser in Mario Golf
Blue-Japanese artwork for early Bowser
Yellow-(UNKNOWN)
Black-Although there is no origin, it was a color used for Bowser in Adventure Mode in Melee before you fight Giga Bowser
Grey-Possibly based on Morton
Dark Blue-Dark Bowser
White-Based on Bowser from Super Mario Bros. 3, but with a discolored mouth

Petey Piranha
Default-Original
Light Blue-Possibly based on an Ice Flower
Green-Possibly based on a Fire Flower
Orange-(UNKNOWN)
Black-(UNKNOWN)
White-Possibly based on the Shroobs
Purple-Possibly based on Shadow Bugs
Pink-(UNKNOWN)

Waluigi
Default-Original
Red-Possibly based on Mario, but with black overalls
Blue-Possibly based on SMG4
Green-Luigi
Yellow-Wario
Black-(UNKNOWN)
Pink-(UNKNOWN)
White-Based on Waluigi from Brawl in the Family

Wario
Default-Original
Red-Mario
Lavender-Zombie Wario
Green-Mario's appearance on the Japanese boxart of Wrecking Crew
Brown-(UNKNOWN) But I like to think it's Pretzel from Vincesauce
White-Wario based on his sprite from Wario Land
Purple-Based on Wario from Wario's Woods (NES)
Cyan-Mario's appearance on the the Japanese cover of Mario Bros..

Ashley
Default-Original
Blue-(UNKNOWN)
Green-(UNKNOWN)
Yellow-(UNKNOWN)
Dark Blue-(UNKNOWN)
Purple-(UNKNOWN)
Orange-Possibly based on a Pumpkin
Pink-(UNKNOWN)

Donkey Kong
Currently uses default palette swaps

Yoshi
Currently uses default palette swaps

Geno
Currently uses default palette swaps

Pikachu
Currently uses default palette swaps

Pichu
Currently uses default palette swaps

Jigglypuff
Currently uses default palette swaps

Mewtwo
Default-Original
Red-Scizor
Blue-Alt. Color from Pokemon Stadium
Green-Shiny Mewtwo
Yellow-Alakazam
Black-Shadow Lugia
Orange-Deoxys

Lucario
Default-Original
Red-Scizor
Green-The Incredible Hulk(?)
Yellow-Shiny Lucario
Black-Alt. Color from Smash 4
White-Possibly based on albino animals
Purple-(UNKNOWN)

Snivy
Currently uses default palette swaps

Samus
Currently uses default palette swaps

Zero Suit Samus
Currently uses default palette swaps

Ridley
Default-Original
Red-Ridley on Super Metroid's boxart or Crocomire
Blue-Nightmare
Green-Kraid
Orange-Charizard
Grey-Meta Ridley
Purple-Possibly based on Ridley in Super Metroid where he is a darker purple
White-Possibly based a Blue Eyes White Dragon from Yu-Gi-Oh

Link
Currently uses default palette swaps

Toon Link
Default-Original
Red-Red Link
Blue-Blue Link
Orange-(UNKNOWN)
Black-Shadow Link
Purple-Purple Link
Green-Based on Link from the original Legend of Zelda (with a bit a of a tan)

Ganondorf
Default-Original
Red-Rugal Bernstein from King of Fighters
Dark Blue-(UNKNOWN)
Green-(UNKNOWN)
Yellow(UNKNOWN)
Black-(UNKNOWN)
Blue-Based on Ganondorf's beast form, Ganon
Purple-(UNKNOWN)

Tingle
Default-Original
Pink-Pinkle or Ankle
Blue-Knuckle (But a bit brighter)
Yellow-(UNKNOWN)
Black-Ganondorf
White-David Jr.
Purple-(UNKNOWN)
Red-Possibly based on Mario

Olimar
Default-Original
Red-Alt. Color from Brawl
Blue-Alph
Green-Somewhat resembles Olimar's Son
Yellow-Alt. Color from Brawl
Dark Blue-(UNKNOWN)
White-Possibly based on real life astronauts
Purple-Could be based on Purple Pikmin (The gloves are the same color as the bud and flower)

Marth
Default-Original
Red-Enemy Units
Green-Allied Units
Yellow-Roy's Yellow Alt. Costume from Melee (It's something)
Black-(UNKNOWN)
White-Leif
Blue-Marth's official artwork for Fire Emblem: Monsho no Nazo
Purple-(UNKNOWN)

Fox
Currently uses default palette swaps

Falco
Currently uses default palette swaps

Krystal
Currently uses default palette swaps

Captain Falcon
Default-Original
Purple-Blood Falcon
Light Blue-Original appearance from the first F-Zero
Green-Wild Goose, Pico's machine
Turquoise-(UNKNOWN)
Black-C. Falcon's outfit from the F-Zero X Expansion Kit
Pink-Jody Summer
Orange-(UNKNOWN)

Kirby
Currently uses default palette swaps

Gooey
Currently uses default palette swaps

Meta Knight
Default-Original
Red-Based on Meta Knight's beta artwork, often called Beta Knight
Green-Alt. Color from Kirby Air Ride
White-Alt. Color from Kirby Air Ride
Grey-Dark Meta Knight
Purple-Dark Matter's sprite from Kirby Mass Attack
Pink-Galacta Knight
Pink2-Based on Meta Knight from Kirby's Adventure

Ness
Default-Original
Blue-Resembles younger Ness
Green-Alt. Color from Melee
Yellow-Gigantic Ant
Pink-(UNKNOWN)
White-Based on Fuel from Mother 3
Light Blue-(UNKNOWN)
Dark Blue-Based on people who are under the influence of Giygas in Earthbound

Lucas
Default-Original
Red-Alt. Color from Brawl
Blue-Loosely resemble Ness' Pajamas from Earthbound
Green-Alt. Color from Brawl
Turquoise-Claus
Black-(UNKNOWN)
Purple-Alt. Color from Brawl
Light Blue-Duster

Porky
Default-Original
Red-(UNKNOWN)
Blue-(UNKNOWN)
Green-(UNKNOWN)
Yellow-(UNKNOWN)
Black-Based on the final fight with Porky in Earthbound
Grey-Based on the statue of Porky in Mother 3

Little Mac
Default-Original
Red-World Circuit Little Mac in Contender Mode
Blue-Major Circuit Little Mac
Yellow-Title Defense Little Mac
White-Based on Little Mac during his Victory in Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! (Yes, his gloves turn white)
Red2-(UNKNOWN)

Saki Amamiya
Default-Original
Red-(UNKNOWN)
Blue-(UNKNOWN) but resembles Lyn from Fire Emblem
Green-(UNKNOWN) but resembles Toph from Avatar: The Last Airbender
Black-Sephiroth from Final Fantasy
Grey-(UNKNOWN)

Ice Climbers
Default-Original
Red-Alt. Color from Melee
Green-Alt. Color from Melee
Yellow-Alt. Color from Melee
Black-(UNKNOWN)
White-Alt. Color from Brawl
Purple-(UNKNOWN)
Orange-(UNKNOWN)

R.O.B.
Currently uses default palette swaps, but next version is going to have...
Default-Original
Red-Based on the Virtual Boy
Blue-Alt. Color from Brawl
Green-Based on the R.O.B. Launcher from the Subspace Emissary
Grey-R.O.B. for the NES, as apposed to the default R.O.B. which is for the Famicom
Yellow-Based on the glitch, "Flipper," from Stack-Up
White-Based on a SNES or the R.O.B. Blaster from the Subspace Emissary
Red2-I recall this being based on Iron Man.

Duck Hunt Dog
Default-Original
Blue-Huckleberry Hound
Green-(UNKNOWN)
Yellow-Pluto
Black-(UNKNOWN)
Pink-Courage the Cowardly Dog
White-Either Droopy or Snoopy

Mach Rider
Currently uses default palette swaps

Mr. Game & Watch
Default-Original
Red-Alt. Color from Melee
Blue-Alt. Color from Melee
Green-Alt. Color from Melee
Yellow-Alt. Color from Brawl
Light Blue-Alt. Color from Brawl
Orange-Probably not based on anything
Pink-Possibly based on Alt. Color from Project M, or nothing just like orange

Solid Snake
Default-Original
Red-Fury's Fire Camouflage
Blue-(UNKNOWN)
Green-(UNKNOWN)
Yellow-(UNKNOWN)
Dark Blue-Old Snake

Bomberman
Default-Original
Red-Red Bomberman
Blue-Blue Bomberman
Green-Green Bomberman
Yellow-Yellow Bomberman
Black-Black Bomberman
Pink-Pink Bomberman
Light Blue-Cyan Bomberman

Sonic
Currently uses default palette swaps

Tails
Currently uses default palette swaps

Knuckles
Default-Original
Blue-Blue Knuckles Glitch from Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Green-Chaos Knuckles (Archie Comics) or Bean the Dynamite
Yellow-Bark the Polar Bear
Black-Clone Fighters
Purple-Fang the Sniper

Shadow
Currently uses default palette swaps

Ristar
Default-Original
Red-(UNKNOWN)
Blue-(UNKNOWN)
Green-(UNKNOWN)
Black-(UNKNOWN)
Grey-(UNKNOWN)
Pink-(UNKNOWN)
Purple-(UNKNOWN)

Rayman
Currently uses default palette swaps, but next version is going to have...
Default-Original
Red-Heavy Metal Rayman
Green-Murfy
Light Blue-Globox (And Raybox which is a Rayman costume based on Globox so...)
Purple-Raymesis
Blue-Lockjaw Rayman
Brown-(UNKNOWN)
Yellow-Throttle Copter Rayman

Crash Bandicoot
Default-Original
Red-(UNKNOWN)
Blue-(UNKNOWN)
Green-(UNKNOWN)
Yellow-(UNKNOWN)
Black-(UNKNOWN)
White-(UNKNOWN)
Pink-(UNKNOWN)

Mega Man
Currently uses default palette swaps, but next version is going to have...
Default-Original
Green-Leaf Shield
Yellow-Metal Blade
Red-Gravity Hold (Artwork)
Black-Thunder Beam
White-Mega Man X with all Armor Pieces.
Pink-Quick Boomerang
Purple-Shadow Blade

Ryu
Default-Original
Red-Ken
Blue-Chun-Li(?)
Green-Blanka
Yellow-Dhalsim
Black-(UNKNOWN)
Pink-Dan
Purple-Sagat

Evil Ryu
Default-Original
Red-Violent Ken
Blue-Oni
Green-(UNKNOWN)
Yellow-Rolento
Pink-Juri
White-(UNKNOWN)
Purple-Shin Akuma

Chun-Li
Default-Original
Red-(UNKNOWN)
Green-Cammy or Guile
Yellow-(UNKNOWN)
Black-(UNKNOWN)
Orange-(UNKNOWN)
Purple-(UNKNOWN)
Dark-Shadow Lady from MvC

Phoenix Wright
Default-Original
Red-Miles Edgeworth
Green-Dick Gumshoe
Yellow-(UNKNOWN)
Black-(UNKNOWN)
Pink-(UNKNOWN)
White-(UNKNOWN)
Purple-(UNKNOWN)

Pac-Man
Currently uses default palette swaps

Klonoa
Default-Original
Red-(UNKNOWN)
Blue-(UNKNOWN)
Green-(UNKNOWN)
Orange-(UNKNOWN)
Black-(UNKNOWN)
Pink-(UNKNOWN)

Goku
Default-Original
Red-Luffy from One Piece
Blue-Yugi from Yugioh
Green-Gon from Hunter x Hunter
Orange-Naruto
Black-Light from Death Note
Purple-Piccolo
Dark Blue-Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star

I'm not the one to find to final all of these, this is a group effort.

I call White Lucario "Albinio" because its color scheme resembles albino creatures (All white fur/skin with red eyes). This was also in Brawl, but it didn't reappear in Smash 4.

wheeled_tank wrote:

I call White Lucario "Albinio" because its color scheme resembles albino creatures (All white fur/skin with red eyes). This was also in Brawl, but it didn't reappear in Smash 4.

Added alongside everyone except for Third Party

Brown/yellow Mewtwo is based on Alakazam

Finished all of it
A lot are still "Unknown" but I'm sure it's just me not knowing.

Dustination wrote:

Brown/yellow Mewtwo is based on Alakazam

Thanks Dust

The Dark Blue Snake is based off of Old Snake. Also, by "Uses Default Pallet Swap", does that mean that it is a color filter (ie. White Krystal is, well, Krystal's sprite with a White Screen/Filter over it)?

wheeled_tank wrote:

Also, by "Uses Default Pallet Swap", does that mean that it is a color filter (ie. White Krystal is, well, Krystal's sprite with a White Screen/Filter over it)?

Pretty much, yeah. You can tell for the most part by it changing the skin color to a color it shouldn't be. Green Toad with black spots probably isn't an actual Toad in the Mario Universe.

OmegaSteve777 wrote:

wheeled_tank wrote:

Also, by "Uses Default Pallet Swap", does that mean that it is a color filter (ie. White Krystal is, well, Krystal's sprite with a White Screen/Filter over it)?

Pretty much, yeah. You can tell for the most part by it changing the skin color to a color it shouldn't be. Green Toad with black spots probably isn't an actual Toad in the Mario Universe.

Speaking of which, I would love to see the color schemes of at least a couple of the disguised Koopa Bros become alts for Toad.



I realize the more likely selection of alts is going to be Yoshi-esque with simply different colored dots and such, but it would be really neat to see one of these take the spotlight.

I think those "Dark Toads" could work well. Might also want to consider a "Goomba Toad." As for the "Green" Toad, you could recolor the Spots to make him resemble the Poison Mushroom from Super Mario Bros: The Lost Levels (Super Mario Bros 2 for anyone from Japan)

On the topic of Possible Pallet Swaps, I have (well, had. Hard Drive crashed when they were here though) a couple of re-colors of Krystal's Smashified art, and the pallet swaps I came up with are as followed:

Blue (Based off of her "Assault" design)
Pink (The original Smashified color, based off of her "Command" design)
Dark Blue & Black (Based off of Krystal's design in the "Star Wolf" ending in Command)
White & Beige (Based off of Krystal's appearance in Adventures)
Darkened Blue Fur and Grey-ish (Similar to the "Dark" colors of Fox, Falco, and Wolf in Smash)
Red (Based off of a Multiplayer color in Assault)
Yellow/White (No real inspiration, originally started as a Yellow recolor)
Green/White (Based off of Fox, originally started out as a basic Green color swap)

If I can, I'll try to recreate them, and post them here (along with any other potential recolor)

Purple Wario is from Wario's Woods (It's also probably the ugliest actual palette in the game)

Black/Gray Saki is based on Sephiroth I'm not shitting you don't ask why

Goku has Yugi, Luffy, Naruto, Gon, Light, and Kenshiro but I don't know in which order that is

Stole this from the dev board


Maybe I'll remember more later

I'm not sure if the colors are right for Goku, but they're completed I guess

Also I would like to hear about ideas for alt. palettes because I'll add them in another list that will be hiding in a spoiler (I'll add my own from time to time)

For the record, Ganondorf's red palette is based on Rugal Bernstein from KOF

And yes, Ganondorf's blue palette is based on Ganon (Mostly from Link to the Past)

I think the question we need to ask first is "will Crusade feature a strict 8 palettes per character." I ask because the characters not using default palettes currently vary from 6 to 8.

A lot of these have source material to work with, so coming up with 8 isn't an issue with a lot of characters. I'm more worried that some have too many to narrow down, like Mega Man and Toad.

To some extent, Sonic and friends have a similar issue, but, as it happens, I came up a way to theme their alts.

Sonic's alts can be based on the other hedgehogs in the series.

Tails's alts can be based on the flying characters.

Shadow's alts can be based on the series' villains/ other Sonic clones.

I have no idea what to do with Knuckles.

Chun Li Dark palette is based on Shadow Lady from Marvel vs Capcom
http://marvelvscapcom.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow_Lady

Toad is pretty easy

Default
Red Toad
Blue Toad
Yellow Toad
Green Toad
Purple Toad
Toadette
Toadsworth

I'm sure that they could add more than 8 palettes, so we could also have a "Dark Toad" and "Poison Toad"

Geno could probably use different enemies/characters from Super Mario RPG for his color swaps.
Fox and Falco could use their Smash 4 color swaps (though Fox should have the "Wolf" color replaced with his Blue costume from Brawl). This could apply to all of the characters from Smash 4 (though with some creative twists in the case of Pac-Man, Sonic, and others)
I think my "Krystal" pallets I mentioned earlier would work for her
I agree with Jex's ideas for Sonic, Tails, and Shadow. Knuckles could use the remaining characters (there are ALOT of Sonic characters to choose from)
Gooey and Kirby are fine with the Basic Color Screens. Due to these not being models, the same applies to the Pokemon
I would have to pull myself from Freedom Planet speed-failing to play the other Purple Haired Pipsqueak's games for ideas (Talking about Shantae. I have the Pirates Curse, but haven't really gotten to play it)

I'll probably go more in depth once I look into the different possibilities of Pallet Swaps. I want to actually play the game/series in question so I have an idea of who/what could work for inspiration.

Pikachu and Pichu's palettes could be based on the other various rodents in Pokemon
Yoshi is pretty obvious
I'm fairly sure that R.O.B., Mega Man and Rayman got alt. palettes announced
Kirby will probably be based on the various colors of Kirby
Gooey could be based on various Kirby enemies
Donkey Kong could be based on the other Kongs

I can't confirm anything since I'm not a Dev, but I think Duck Hunt Dog has some inspirations behind his costumes:
1- Default.
2- Blue -Huckleberry Hound
3- Green - (UNKNOWN)
4-Yellow - Pluto
5- Black -(UNKNOWN)
6- Pink -Courage the Cowardly Dog
7- White - Either Droopy or Snoopy

I also made these colors for Gooey a few months ago:

1- Standard. Blue Team.
2- Based on Computer Virus' Slime from Kirby Super Star. Green Team.
3- Based on Sir Slippy from Kirby's Adventure and in Pac-man. Yellow Team.
4- Based on Chuchu.
5- Based on Rocky.
6- Based on Drop from Kirby 64.
7- Based on the GB Colors of female Gooey from Kirby's Dream Land 2.
8- Based on Zero's Eye from Dream Land 3. Red Team.
9- Based on Dark Matter from Dream Land 3. Black Team.
10- Based on Zero from Dream Land 3.

I'm gonna make a few pallettes for Kirby later.

Those Duck Hunt palettes are correct

Kirb-Star wrote:

I can't confirm anything since I'm not a Dev, but I think Duck Hunt Dog has some inspirations behind his costumes:
1- Default.
2- Blue -Huckleberry Hound
3- Green - (UNKNOWN)
4-Yellow - Pluto
5- Black -(UNKNOWN)
6- Pink -Courage the Cowardly Dog
7- White - Either Droopy or Snoopy

1- Standard. Blue Team.
2- Based on Computer Virus' Slime from Kirby Super Star. Green Team.
3- Based on Sir Slippy from Kirby's Adventure and in Pac-man. Yellow Team.
4- Based on Chuchu.
5- Based on Rocky.
6- Based on Drop from Kirby 64.
7- Based on the GB Colors of female Gooey from Kirby's Dream Land 2.
8- Based on Zero's Eye from Dream Land 3. Red Team.
9- Based on Dark Matter from Dream Land 3. Black Team.
10- Based on Zero from Dream Land 3.

I'm gonna make a few pallettes for Kirby later.

I had a feeling that DHD was based on some things, I guess they just felt off or something.

Also if those Dark Matter and Zero palettes don't happen, I'll... do something bad.

I'm surprised Meta Knight's Dark Matter (Swordsman form) wasn't listed, as it's the most pronounced one, thanks to the one eye.

It kinda resembles Dark Matter Swordsman, but the colors seem a bit too different for it to count as a legit reference :/

Not in any way confirmed but I believe that Phoenix's purple alt is meant to be Maya and the pink one is meant to be Pearl

Maybe this based in UMVC3 alt colors?

SnivyKawaii (CJ) wrote:

Maybe this based in UMVC3 alt colors?

The tie and shirt are different colors. Still, the suits are the exact same shade of red, so while the costumes aren't the same, they are definitely still based on the same thing.

Knuckles
Blue Based on Blue Knuckles Glitch from Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Green Based on Chaos Knuckles from Archie Comics or Bean The Dynamite
Yellow based on Bark the Polar Bear
Black Based on Clone Fighters from Sonic The Fighters
Purple Based on Fang The Sniper

Seeing as how the alt. colors also affect his skin, I'm assuming he has no real colors quite yet.
Thanks for trying tho

Top Image:
Purple - Rayman
Red - Heavy Metal Rayman
Green - Murphy
Blue - Globox (And Raybox too, but y'know)
Bottom Image:
Indigo - Raymesis
Blue - Lockjaw Rayman
Brown - I got no clue (But it reminds me of Snoop Dogg's appearance in the Rayman Legends trailer)
Yellow - Throttle Copter Rayman (And also kinda Ly the Fairy)

Them's my thoughts on things

Thank you for that.

There is also ones for Mega Man and R.O.B., if you could find those that'd be fantastic.

OmegaSteve777 wrote:

Seeing as how the alt. colors also affect his skin, I'm assuming he has no real colors quite yet.
Thanks for trying tho

He does

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