| Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) | |
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GamingGryffindor Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:20 pm | |
| Voice opinions on possible inclusion of Takamaru in Crusade. Announce your support or objection to the idea here! Takamaru to join the Crusade! Takamaru is the protagonist of the classic Famicom game Nazo no Murasame-jo (English, The Mysterious Murasame Castle. This series came to a halt after the first game but has resurfaced in recent years, with Takamaru appearing in the game Samurai Warriors 3 for Wii, and having a game in Nintendo Land . Sakurai has spoken about Takamaru having a chance to appear in Smash Bros. before, saying that if he appeared in another game he would be likely to be included. Having now appeared in 2 other games it's likely he will be a newcomer in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS. Why should Takamaru be included in Crusade? 1. He is a first party character with a cult following among both Japanese and Western fans. 2. He is a samurai, something we have only one of on Crusade's current roster (Goroh) He could use a combination of Melee sword attacks an projectiles. He was also Nintendo's first Samurai. 3. One idea I have seen many times expressed in Smash Bros. discussion rooms is an "East Vs. West" concept. Little Mac is usually the rep for the West, and Takamaru is usually the rep for the East. 4. None of Crusade's current roster has a Japan-only series. 5. Adding Takamaru (and Villager) would give every series in Nintendo Land but Pachinko (who doesn't really have a character) a playable rep. 6. He was in Brawl as a sticker, and has had microgames based on him in WarioWare. 7. The series is a sister series to The Legend of Zelda, in spirit of gameplay, plot, and graphics, as well as release date. - Quote :
- Sakurai's comment on the Melee site in tandem with his appearances in Samurai Warriors 3 and Captain Rainbow and Nintendo Land, plus his popularity in Japan, his moveset versatility, Sakurai's game plan for focusing on a lot of retro characters, and the fact he's one of Miyamoto's favorite Nintendo characters are all contributing factors towards his inclusion. Other than maybe Little Mac (who I'm not sure counts as retro as his franchise had a recent revival), I cannot think of a better retro rep.
Possible Moveset: - Spoiler:
Jab: Sakurai'd three hit slasher combo Ftilt: A weak Sakurai'd stab Utilt: upward slash with Katana. Dtilt: a low sweeping slash with Katana. Dash attack: shoves his blade forward engulfed in flames while Sliding after running Fsmash: a powerful Side Slash from behind shoulder down to ground in front Usmash: a powerful Upward Slash. Dsmash: Uses a lightning explosion to hit the ground in front of himself. Nair: spins once with his blade outstretched. Fair: slashes forward, in a downward arc. Bair: Turns and slashes horizontally. Uair: An upward slash, engulfed in flame. Dair: Plunges downward to the stage with his blade, can Meteor smash, if it does, goes into normal fall and can be reused, like Toon Link's. Nspec: Shuriken - Takamaru may rapidly shoot Shurikens, up to 50 at a time by pressing the b button rapidly. After using all 50, pressing again will reload, at 5 stars per second held. Charge the attack, and Takamaru will shoot five fireball Shuriken in rapid succession. This however drains his supply of Shuriken faster giving less time for him to fire before a reload. Sspec: Deflect - Takamaru holds his Blade like Marth's Counter but can hold it. Any projectiles hitting the sword during this pose will be sent back and do double damage. Uspec: Rising Sun - Takamaru leaps straight upward while holding his blade underneath himself. As he jumps he will raise it and hold it on his shoulder, when he finishes the jump he will slash in a circular pattern with the blade engulfed in flames. Dspec: Invisibility Cloak - Takamaru uses an invisibility cloak to make himself invisible (this is seen to the player by having Takamaru's outline shape in an appropriate color.) making it where each attack an opponent makes has only a 10% Chance of hitting him. If it does hit, Takamaru will take 1.5% the damage he normally would take from that attack, but only 0.5 the knockback. He will then flash red and turn visible again. He can attack while in this mode. Pressing the Down B again while in this mode will deactivate it. Pummel: Takamaru slashes the opponent. Fthrow: Takamaru stabs the opponent, and knees them forward. Bthrow: Takamaru flips backward throwing the opponent. Uthrow: Takamaru throws the opponent upward and tosses 5 Shurikens at them. Dthrow: Takamaru places the opponent beneath him, leaps upward and comes down with his blade, see the Ending Blow from TLoZ: Twilight Princess to somewhat see what the leap and attack should resemble. Final Smash: Inazuma Lightning Technique - Takamaru sheathes his sword And pulls out a scroll, unravels it and stabs his blade into the ground creating six pillars of lightning all around the stage, causing four times the damage Pikachu's Thunder would do. The scroll then burns into Black ashes. Taunt: Takamaru motions for the foe to come at him and says, "Tatake!" (Japanese for "Fight!")
Suggestions and notes: Takamaru could either replace Vaati or an appropriate character, or be added as completely new. Moveset suggestions gladly accepted. Kirby's Copy Ability: Sword or Fire, poll should be used to determine this. Stage Idea: Castle Murasame Stage Music Ideas: Douchuumen (Nazo no Murasame-jo) from Super Smash Bros. Brawl Takamaru's Ninja Castle Theme from Nintendo Land Colors/Costumes: Default Yellow - Dark Gold Haori, Rust Kimono, Bright Yellow Hakama Blue - Navy Blue Haori, Black Kimono, Sky Blue Hakama Green - Dark Green Haori, White Kimono, Light Green Hakama Black - Jet Black Haori, Crimson Kimono, Dark Gray Hakama NES Original Colors/Red Team - Red and Blue, with Light Blue Takamaru is a samurai who explored Castle Murasame defeating Daimyos, and eventually the Demon Murasame, and earning his family's honor. He battled his way to the end, and like Pit before him, layed dormant for over 20 years until his newer appearances on the Wii and Wii U. Works: Famicom: Nazo no Murasame-jo (1986) Wii: Captain Rainbow (2008) Wii: Samurai Warriors 3 (2010) Wii U: Nintendo Land (2013) Weight: 3/5 Speed: 3/5 Videos: General Gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poaqMVBnCqQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9IhF6cmamk Images: Samurai Warriors 3 Appearance;Original Appearance Interesting Tidbits about Takamaru: He had a Japan exclusive TV show, making him more like other better known Nintendo characters and Third Party smash characters with shows such as Mario, Link, Kirby, Pokémon, DK, Sonic, and to a lesser extent, Pit, Mega Man, and Simon Belmont. Verification for Sakurai on the subject of Takamaru in Smash: From the Takamaru for SSB4 FB page: Stating that if Takamaru appeared In another game he would likely add him. http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/PostReturn025.html from Nintendo Japan, seems to be a slightly rough but accurate translation. Takamaru's Original Sprite Sheet, from Nazo no Murasame-jo.: http://www.spriters-resource.com/nes/nazonomurasamejo/sheet/19426/ Discuss. Supporters: Vanellope von Schweetz rjones1325 Smash King Keven C_Mill24 Blitz VultureDuck
Last edited by Vanellope von Schweetz on Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:09 am; edited 10 times in total |
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rjones1325 Level 5 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:25 pm | |
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Smash King Smash King
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:52 pm | |
| I wouldn't mind Takamaru, but it depends who he replaces.
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GamingGryffindor Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:14 pm | |
| That is also up for debate, feel free to discuss that here as well. |
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MercuryHg34
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:15 am | |
| - Smash King wrote:
I wouldn't mind Takamaru, but it depends who he replaces. Isn't he on the poll already? |
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Keven Level 5 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:04 am | |
| I vote Yes . I think Takamaru sould remplace Chun-Li beacause First Party is may more Important and we already have Ryu the main protagonist of Street Fighter also main protagonist is more important that Segond rep . |
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VultureDuck Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:51 am | |
| - Keven wrote:
- I vote Yes . I think Takamaru sould remplace Chun-Li beacause First Party is may more Important and we already have Ryu the main protagonist of Street Fighter also main protagonist is more important that Segond rep .
I don't think it's a good idea to replace a character that is complete, personally I would replace Vaati or Grey Fox. |
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rjones1325 Level 5 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:02 am | |
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C_Mill24 Level 9 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:20 pm | |
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Smash King Smash King
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:07 pm | |
| Ah, I just realized that this thread is on the Suggestion Poll Campaign boards. Feels slow XD
But yea, I don't think Takamaru should replace a 3rd party. But who knows, depending on how far we get with the roster, there are chances we may not even have to replace a character to get Takamaru in. Or replacement might be the option, which I feel should be a series with one too many reps.
But none the less, I think Takamaru would be a decent retro choice.
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Blitz [BANNED] Level 7 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:18 pm | |
| I support this character for Croissant. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:34 pm | |
| EDIT: No support from me.
Last edited by ~ Mr. Terrible on Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:42 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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GamingGryffindor Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:22 pm | |
| - MercuryHg34 wrote:
- Smash King wrote:
I wouldn't mind Takamaru, but it depends who he replaces. Isn't he on the poll already? Yes, but this thread is to get him onto the main roster. |
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VultureDuck Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:45 pm | |
| I will support, but if only if he is added without replacing someone. |
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Perfect Hell
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:40 pm | |
| DLC candidate and no more. Seriously, we have significantly more important characters to consider if we ever want to change main roster, for example any SSB4 candidates or any number of the characters beating him on the suggestion poll. |
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GamingGryffindor Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:26 pm | |
| PH, who else other than Villager and WFT do you think qualifies as more important? |
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Perfect Hell
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:27 pm | |
| Nearly every character currently beating him on the suggestion poll, which is some 20 characters? |
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GamingGryffindor Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:34 pm | |
| as much as I love Sora, Tom Nook, etc. they don't deserve to be main roster. Most of them are third party, while Takamaru is a first party classic who is a fan favorite to appear in Smash 4. |
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Perfect Hell
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:53 pm | |
| I'd still vote those characters over him. Even if he were the best possible choice, you'd still have to add him onto the roster and the dev team already has their work cut out for them, we don't need unnecessary roster additions. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:56 pm | |
| - Perfect Hell wrote:
- I'd still vote those characters over him. Even if he were the best possible choice, you'd still have to add him onto the roster and the dev team already has their work cut out for them, we don't need unnecessary roster additions.
Which is why if we do change the roster, I'd rather replace unpopular characters nobody bothered to work on (Vaait and Zoroark) rather than needlessly add more unneeded work. |
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Smash King Smash King
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:58 pm | |
| @Axel, Tom Nook is not 3rd party. He is actually an Animal Crossing character. Which makes him 1st party as well. So, with Villager already a SSB4 character and a favorite for potential roster addition, why should Takamaru go in before Tom Nook/2nd Animal Crossing rep? |
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GamingGryffindor Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:00 pm | |
| Later tonight, will add visual aids, as a picture of Takamaru in Samurai Warriors 3, and color swaps.
Pre-post edit: also what Mist said. pre-post edit 2: I know lol, I said most of the characters beating Takamaru on the suggestion poll are third party |
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Smash King Smash King
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:39 pm | |
| So far, Tom Nook & Kamek are the only Nintendo characters beating Takamaru (who is on the borders). Now, with Villager as the favorite to rep Animal Crossing, it doesn't seem like it favors Tom Nook too well and doubt people will want a 2nd Animal Crossing rep. As for Kamek, idk if people feel a 2nd Yoshi rep is needed. If these 2 have a negative factor against them, then that kinda puts Takamaru as the leading Nintendo character in some way.
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C_Mill24 Level 9 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:45 pm | |
| - Vanellope von Schweetz wrote:
- PH, who else other than Villager and WFT do you think qualifies as more important?
Just because they are confirmed as newcomers in the next installment, doesn't mean they'll be put in Crusade, let alone qualify them. |
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GamingGryffindor Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:51 pm | |
| I agree, in fact I don't think WFT should be in. |
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C_Mill24 Level 9 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:07 pm | |
| - Vanellope von Schweetz wrote:
- I agree, in fact I don't think WFT should be in.
I don't think they ever considered her for Crusade. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:26 pm | |
| - Vanellope von Schweetz wrote:
- I agree, in fact I don't think WFT should be in.
are you gay or something |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:27 pm | |
| - The Illest wrote:
- Vanellope von Schweetz wrote:
- I agree, in fact I don't think WFT should be in.
are you gay or something He just wants the more "important" options, even if they totally suck balls. |
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Masaomi Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:54 pm | |
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GamingGryffindor Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Takamaru for Crusade! (Character Support Thread) Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:59 am | |
| Will make palette swaps sometime today. |
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