Goomba (Super Mario Bros.) Discussion

What if there was a character that could represent all of the Mario obstacles. The most iconic being the Goomba. Here not only did I make ideas for Crusade but also ideas 4 Smash 4 alternate costumes & Customs)

Combo: Headbutt + Spin attack (after being damaged in Mario Galaxy)
Side Tilt: Shy Gun Shot (Mario USA)
Dash attack: Rush Attack (Mario 64)
Up tilt: Parana Plant (Super Mario Bros.)
Down Tilt: Self Kick (Super Mario World)
Side Smash: Cannon Head (Super Mario 3D World)
Up Smash: Fire Parana Plant (Super Mario Bros.)
Down Smash: Chain Chomp (Super Mario Bros. 3)
Neutral Air: Boo Scare (super Mario Bros. 3)
Front Air: Raccoon Goomba Tail Spin (Super Mario 3D Land)
Back air: Reverse Raccoon Goomba Tail Combo (Super Mario 3D Land)
Up Air: Hammer Throw (Super Mario Bros.)
Down Air: Buzzie Beetle Spawn (Super Mario Bros. 3)
Neutral Special: Mario Maker Spawn (Super Mario Maker)
Little charge: Koopa
1st Medium Charge: Parakoopa
2nd Medium Charge: Hammer Bro
Full Charge: Big Hammer Bros.
Side Special: Bullet Bill (Super Mario Bros.)
Up Special: Paragoomba Wings (Plus Micro Goomba drop)
Down Special: Thwomp (Super Mario Bros. 3)
Pummel: Goomba Arms? (Super mario Bros. Anime film)
Front throw: Baseball bat (Super Mario Sluggers)
Back Throw: Crab Enemy (Mario Bros.)
Up Throw: Donkey Kong Hammer (Donkey Kong Arcade)
Down Throw: Cannon Shot (Super Mario Bros.)
Final Smash: Goomboss (Paper Mario)

Taunt 1: Dance Before Running (Subspace Emissary)
Taunt 2: Looking in Book/Goombella Examination (Paper Mario & the Thousand Year Door)
Taunt 3: Still walking (Super Mario Bros.)

Alternate Colors (Goomba will be one of the only characters 12 alternate costumes)
-Default Brown
-Underground colors (blue)
-Paragoomba (Red)
-Karebo Boot (Green)
-Gold Goomba (New Super Mario Bros. 2)
-Mustache Goomba (Super Mario Maker)
-Goombella (Paper Mario & the Thousand Year Door)
-Goomboss (Paper Mario)
-Cat Goomba (Super Mario 3D World)
-NES Goomba (Super Mario Bros.)
-Red Feet Goomba (Yoshi's Island)
-Bone Goomba (New Super Mario Bros. 2)

Custom Moves

Special 2: Mega Mushroom Super Mario Maker Spawn
Special 3: Mini Mushroom Super Mario Maker Spawn)

Side Special 2: Heat Seeking Red Bullet Bill (Mario Maker)
Side Special 3: Torpedo Ted (Super Mario World)

DownSpecial 2: Thwimp (Super Mario Bros. 3)
DownSpecial 3: 64 Thwomp (Super Mario 64)

Up Special 2: All Fly no Drops
Up Special 3: Fire Goomba Shot (Bowser's Inside Story)

I'm glad you created a moveset based off of various Mario games, however, how will he be as a standalone character? Will he be agile and great if used correctly, or will he be slow and tanky be has a larger knockback rate? Also, we need to know why he should be in this game. We get that he's iconic, but there needs to be a better reason why he would fit in the Crusade cast.

I'm working on a character idea right now that would be better then this representing Mario-wise imo, honestly. It's a bunch of Bowser's most famous baddies. I feel it'd be better then a solitary Goomba.

Your reasoning is pretty poor, though, but I guess the moveset isn't that bad. I mean, you obviously know your facts, which is good.

The character and moveset is original, but I'm not sure if I can support for now.

*someone makes a Bandana Dee thread*
Bandana Dee doesn't deserve to be in Crusade because he's just a regular enemy!

*someone makes a thread of a regular Goomba*
Hmm...not bad, but I still need to think about it.

Is it just me or is this forum the perfect home for hypocrites?

TrinitroMan wrote:

*someone makes a Bandana Dee thread*
Bandana Dee doesn't deserve to be in Crusade because he's just a regular enemy!

*someone makes a thread of a regular Goomba*
Hmm...not bad, but I still need to think about it.

Is it just me or is this forum the perfect home for hypocrites?

Lmao what are you talking about? I'm pretty sure Bandana Dee is one of the most voted threads on here?

Please, link me the thread you're getting so steamed about.

Okay, just checked it, and whoops, looks like I mixed things up. Sorry.

TrinitroMan wrote:

Is it just me or is this forum the perfect home for hypocrites?

Yes.
https://projectcrusade.forumotion.com/t4123-black-mage-final-fantasy

https://projectcrusade.forumotion.com/t4200-dracula-s-castle-castlevania-judgment

Dustination wrote:

TrinitroMan wrote:

Is it just me or is this forum the perfect home for hypocrites?

Yes.
https://projectcrusade.forumotion.com/t4123-black-mage-final-fantasy

https://projectcrusade.forumotion.com/t4200-dracula-s-castle-castlevania-judgment

OH
OH MY

OH MY GOD, I SAID SORRY ALREADY! WHY WONT YOU GUYS SHUT UP NOW?!

TrinitroMan wrote:

OH MY GOD, I SAID SORRY ALREADY! WHY WONT YOU GUYS SHUT UP NOW?!

Cool your jets. It was a legit point, and if you can't handle being proven you're wrong, then don't try and make an invalid point in the first place. If you're going to act like Dust just wrote a paragraph on how hypocritical and demonic you are then you need to take a break.

Why won't you be a nicer person now?

I could handle being proven wrong. But there's no need to make fun of me afterwards. Especially if I have already admitted that I was wrong.

Why won't you be a nicer person now instead of throwing salt into wounds?

TrinitroMan wrote:

I could handle being proven wrong. But there's no need to make fun of me afterwards. Especially if I have already admitted that I was wrong.

Why won't you be a nicer person now instead of throwing salt into wounds?

WOW, YOU THINK I'M MEAN? First off, you stroll into this thread and pull the classic "how is this better" trick. Don't come into someone's thread and cry about your own, ESPECIALLY if you're wrong.

And don't even get me started; you're MEAN. Accept it. You insult people but say it's fine because it's your opinion, you refuse to listen to anything people say, act like your own opinions are fact (remember the Daisy thread?)

Look, I would be "nicer" to you, no, this whole forum would be nicer to you, if you could listen to what I just said here.

And I was making fun of you...okay, I apologize if you feel that way, but it's not like you haven't put people down for having fun either.

Now let's get this thread back on track.

I'm honestly 100% sure that only the character/stage suggestion part of the forum is the part where all the hypocrits are.

Fenni wrote:

I'm honestly 100% sure that only the character/stage suggestion part of the forum is the part where all the hypocrits are.

I mean, of course, that's where like half of the forum goes

Oh my god, what is happening? This is the most hostility I've ever seen on this forum; not from you Shaq, obviously. Trinitro: cool your shit. Stop whining about stuff regardless of whether or not your whining has a basis; just give (constructive) feedback on the character suggestion. Christ.

Until Shaq makes that Koopa Troop thread, this Goomba idea isn't terrible, but it's sorely lacking. No explanations of moves, no mention of how much damage/knockback/stun those moves would do, no details about how Goomba would play, etc. Could be an interesting idea, but the fact remains that Goomba is a little...bland, as far as characters go. Plus, there are a lot of characters that deserve inclusion more. Sorry, but no support.

I think enemy minions overall should stay away from the fighter roster. Even if this is a fan game, this is Super Smash Bros. not Mario Super Sluggers. Sorry, but no support from me.

I agree 100%.
If a Mario enemy needs to be playable, then at least someone with personality.
Like General Guy, for example. Making him playable also has the side effect of adding Paper Mario representation without adding Paper Mario himself.

> a character to represent mario enemies

We have Bowser.

Doqtor Kirby wrote:

> a character to represent mario enemies

We have Bowser.

And Petey

and wario, yet the OP was meaning Mario Grunts, the midbosses, the ones who forget to lock the door. Not the main villian.

DestinyIntwined wrote:

and wario, yet the OP was meaning Mario Grunts, the midbosses, the ones who forget to lock the door. Not the main villian.

Wario is arguably an anti-hero.

Lego Shaq wrote:

Wario is arguably an anti-hero.

'Arguably' is a bit of an understatement, seeing as he has two of his own series', and at least two one-offs.

I just listed him as a villian as his first appearnace in Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (I think, I forget sometimes) he was the final boss, not bowser.

He's appeared as an ally to Kirby a lot more than he's appeared as a true antagonist; most of the times he's opposed Kirby he was possessed, the other times he's more mischievous than evil, or else totally misunderstood and was trying to help people.

Naughty Ottsel wrote:

He's appeared as an ally to Kirby a lot more than he's appeared as a true antagonist; most of the times he's opposed Kirby he was possessed, the other times he's more mischievous than evil, or else totally misunderstood and was trying to help people.

You actually meant Mario and not Kirby, right?

No, he actually meant Starfy from Densetsu no Stafy.

TrinitroMan wrote:

No, he actually meant Starfy from Densetsu no Stafy.

Makes sense.

What does Wario being a villian have to do with Kirby? At All??

Wario is not a villian.
At least not anymore.

What TrinitroMan said. Dedede started as an antagonist, and has still opposed the protagonist several times throughout the series, but can't really be considered a real villain anymore. Wario is the same.