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Mario123311
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 | | Subject: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:23 pm | |
| Giana made her debut in 1987, pretty much being Mario's rival before Sonic would come along. Sadly, She disapeared off store shelves pretty quickly... Only to return in 2009 on the DS. Recently, She's been straying away from being a "clone" or whatnot. Becoming her own independent person. I think the fight between her and the red plumber is long overdue... What do you all think though? The following moveset below takes several queues from the DS game and Twisted Dreams. It would probably be best to use her most recent appearance, Which is from the DS game and onward. Moveset: - Spoiler:
--------------- CUTE GIANA ---------------
Natural Combo: Weak 1, 2 slap similar to Peach.
Forward natural: Giana spins around on her toes and then slows down to a halt.
Back natural: Kicks directly behind her.
Down Tilt: does a quick, short length kick
Up Tilt: Does a very short length headbutt upward.
Nutural Ariel: standard sex kick.
Up Ariel: flips upside down briefly and does a drilling motion with her feet.
Forward Ariel: Standard sideways kick
Down Ariel: Very similar to Mario's DA in Melee, weak but reasonable damage.
Side Smash: Flashes a pose with an arm and a sticking out. Similar to that of something used in a dance.
Up Smash: Does a pose standing straight upward, sticking both of her hands up in the air while standing perfectly still.
Down Smash: Does a split with both of her legs out.
B – Twirl - Giana does a twirl in the air, less based on aggression and more on floatiness, similar to Peach's Parasol in a way.
Side B – Soda Jet - Giana takes out a soda bottle and shakes it, Doing this button action again will release a stream of soda, pushing them away. Very much like Mario's FLUDD.
Down B – Twist - Giana transforms into her "wild side", Punk Giana. She becomes more heavier and agressive where as Cute Giana is more lightweight and whatnot. Can last as long as the player wants until they decide to transform back, Like Zelda's transformation from Brawl to Melee.
Up B – Bubblegum - A pink bubble will form around Giana as she gains the ability of flight for a short time. After a few seconds the bubble will pop though, So try to make it count.
--------------- PUNK GIANA ---------------
Natural Combo: 2 quick repeated Punch-Punch combo.
Forward natural: Strong forward kick
Down tilt: Does a swift sweeping kick behind her.
Up tilt: Uppercut, similar to Mario's.
Natural Ariel: Spins in a ball of flame before landing.
Forward Ariel: Furiously does a strong but short sex kick.
Back Ariel: Kicks both of her feet behind her.
Up Ariel: Does an upward flip-kick.
Up Smash: Headbutts upward as if hitting a block above her.
Side Smash: Heavy, slow punch in said direction.
Down Smash: Breakdance kick, Similar to that of Mario's
B – Dream Bubble - Shoots a fireball that slowly descends downward. Only 2 can be on screen.
Side B – Flame Dash - Her main move from Twisted Dreams, Homes in on enemies if they are in close range.
Down B – Twist ((Reverts back to Cute Giana))
Up B – Redhead Missile - Pretty similar to Fox's up B in that it takes a while to charge, and deals fire damage. One thing that sets it apart is upon hitting an opponent, they will recieve knockback. This also stops Giana during her dash animation though.
Final Smash (both)
"Diamond Mine"
Giana will take out her treasure chest, containing her precious diamond collection. Upon opening, Diamonds will start spewing up and raining down from the sky. Anybody who touches them will recieve major knockback. Beware though that this only lasts a few seconds.
Let's teach that ol' red capped fellow how to "fight like a girl", 'eh?
Last edited by Mario123311 on Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:00 pm; edited 6 times in total |
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procrastinatingDestiny
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:23 pm | |
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Roy
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:29 pm | |
| I've never heard of Giana... but I can't really give support until I see more.
Also, using someone else's moveset generally is disliked around here... |
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TrinitroMan
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:26 am | |
| I'm sorry, but I will only support Giana, if her moveset is changed in order to reflect her true nature...by making her a Mario clone! *dodges tomatoes* |
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Mario123311
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:49 am | |
| Eheh, Yeah. I had a moveset in mind before this but then I found out this guy sorta had the same idea, And I didn't want to seem like I was plagiarizing anybody's work here.
But I really recommend you check her out, especially the DS game and Twisted Dreams. |
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Lego Shaq
 
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:27 pm | |
| I'm not sure if I even want to critique this. Just..no.
I guess the down special is original? The moveset isn't really bad, it's unique actually, but the character itself....like, the fact she fell out even though she was the "Sonic before Sonic" should be pretty evidently pointing to no one cares much for her.
And Giana's games, from my understanding, are still too much like Mario. Come on, Giana Sisters? Mario Brothers? It's in the title.
And, by the way, if you didn't want to plagarize someone's work, then you shouldn't steal their entire moveset. |
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Mario123311
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:44 pm | |
| Except I said I didn't claim any of the writing for the moveset as my own. And nobody cares about her? You'd be surprised to see how all her games hold up, with rather loyal fans.
I'll probably rewrite the whole moveset just because. I hope any similarities doesn't get anyone saying I plagiarized someone else's work, Because that's EXACTLY what I was worried about. Hence why I went ahead and just went and used ((with credit)) that guys writing.
Just being similar doesn't mean they should be a clone though. Especially since her new incarnation is trying it's best to show more creativity. |
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Lego Shaq
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:59 pm | |
| - Mario123311 wrote:
- Except I said I didn't claim any of the writing for the moveset as my own. And nobody cares about her? You'd be surprised to see how all her games hold up, with rather loyal fans.
I'll probably rewrite the whole moveset just because. I hope any similarities doesn't get anyone saying I plagiarized someone else's work, Because that's EXACTLY what I was worried about. Hence why I went ahead and just went and used ((with credit)) that guys writing.
Just being similar doesn't mean they should be a clone though. Especially since her new incarnation is trying it's best to show more creativity. Except you still used it without permission. But alright, I understand. I suppose I'm wrong, seeing how the original and DS version were rated, but I still feel that compared to the other 3rd party characters in Crusade she's a minor thing. Clone or not, her series itself still is a lot like Mario. |
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Mario123311
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:31 pm | |
| Then again we have Ristar and Klonoa, Who are rather minor as well if you think about it. So really, I don't see there being a problem. She shares some similarities but overall most of her look and feel could make her feel like a different character. Sure her weight and jumping ability would match Mario but that'd be about it stats wise. Twisted Dreams especially out empthathis on her "split personality" between Cute and Punk. |
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Lego Shaq
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:34 pm | |
| - Mario123311 wrote:
- Then again we have Ristar and Klonoa, Who are rather minor as well if you think about it. So really, I don't see there being a problem. She shares some similarities but overall most of her look and feel could make her feel like a different character. Sure her weight and jumping ability would match Mario but that'd be about it stats wise. Twisted Dreams especially out empthathis on her "split personality" between Cute and Punk.
Ristar was added due to an old dev's bias. Klonoa is MUCH more major then you think, with many games, many appearances, and many fans. Giana has like 3 games and has only appeared in those 3 games. I'm not saying she'll be a clone moveset-wise, I'm saying the series is like a Mario clone, at least it once was. |
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Mario123311
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:40 pm | |
| Yes, It started as a Mario clone. With Twisted Dreams though, She's been starting to take on a new approach and straying away from her SMB-Esc roots.
Let alone the game wouldn't have even been possible without fan support VIA Kickstarter. |
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Lego Shaq
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:41 pm | |
| - Mario123311 wrote:
- Yes, It started as a Mario clone. With Twisted Dreams though, She's been starting to take on a new approach and straying away from her SMB-Esc roots.
Okay, but that's just one, very recent game. |
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procrastinatingDestiny
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:46 pm | |
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Mario123311
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:51 pm | |
| It's also worth adding a sequel to Twised Dreams was announced not too long ago as well, And it has some rather interesting concepts too: http://gianasisterstwisteddreams.com/giana-sisters-2-concept-art/
And even if her series is like Mario, It doesn't really say why she shouldn't be in. Her universe and whatnot also revolved around her falling into a dream world basically. Really any franchise (based on how it looks) could be compared to another I guess. Kirby and Pac-Man, Klonoa and Sonic... [Yes, I said that. Sue me.] Just some examples. |
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Lego Shaq
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:54 pm | |
| - Mario123311 wrote:
- It's also worth adding a sequel to Twised Dreams was announced not too long ago as well, And it has some rather interesting concepts too: http://gianasisterstwisteddreams.com/giana-sisters-2-concept-art/
And even if her series is like Mario, It doesn't really say why she shouldn't be in. Her universe and whatnot also revolved around her falling into a dream world basically. Really any franchise (based on how it looks) could be compared to another I guess. Kirby and Pac-Man, Klonoa and Sonic... [Yes, I said that. Sue me.] Just some examples. Eh, you've got a good point. Still won't be supporting but the moveset isn't bad by any means. |
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Mario123311
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:27 pm | |
| Went ahead an re-wrote the moveset. Mostly the same with a few slight changes.
Re-Writen word for word though. |
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Mario123311
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:34 pm | |
| Added Cute!Giana's standard A moves. Expect Punk!Giana's to be done soon though. |
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procrastinatingDestiny
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:41 pm | |
| Mkay, sounds good. What's a "Standard Sex Kick?" describe these things. |
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Mario123311
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:44 pm | |
| http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Sex_Kick
Figure it's worth noting this. Tried my best to explain her Smash attacks. ((I wanted to go for "poses" similar to WFT in a way)) |
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procrastinatingDestiny
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:45 pm | |
| Ok, but next time, explain it in your moveset. |
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Dustination
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:35 pm | |
| Most people who play smash could tell you what a sex kick is. |
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procrastinatingDestiny
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:35 pm | |
| Well this is I only got into playing smash on the demo for SSB4 on the E-shop rolled out, so I didn't know... |
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TrinitroMan
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:41 am | |
| I played Smash since the N64 days, and even I don't know what a Sex Kick is. |
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procrastinatingDestiny
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:17 am | |
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Mario123311
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:02 pm | |
| Now updated with all of Punk Giana's basic moves. Any feedback would be appreciated. |
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Mario123311
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:15 pm | |
| So... Thoughts? Moveset is pretty much finished. |
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Braystar
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:05 am | |
| I like Giana. Support. Needs work tho |
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Mario123311
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:14 pm | |
| Any suggestions on what I could do to describe basic moves better? I'm not just going to say "punch, slap, kick, ect" and whatnot so I tried my best to describe them with full detail. |
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TheMayMaysJack
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:04 am | |
| I'm sorry, this Mario guy said Giana isn't a clone anymore but she's basically a speedrunners clone now, and a bad one at that. Moveset isn't all that bad but come on, she never really wasn't a clone. |
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Mario123311
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| | Subject: Re: Giana (Giana Sisters) Discussion Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:53 am | |
| Dream Runners was a side game. I recommend you look at Twisted Dreams, okay? |
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