Toad Discussion

Discuss, share opinions, ideas, etc. about Toad.

I feel like we need to change his side special, we don't need another move that just jets you forward.

I agree.

Bring back the front flip.

I honestly think the side special is fine. With the amount of characters in the game, having characters with similar moves to another is bound to happen, and Toad is representing Mario Kart with his side special, a franchise that I don't recall being represented in any other way honestly. I think it's fine, and a neat concept on the moves that jet the character forward.

If it were changed, what would be better to fit the character anyways? It fits Toad well, and represents a popular spinoff franchise, so it's fine.

I know it fits, but I feel like toad has been in enough games to have a side special that is the same as Luigi and Pikachu.

Actually that side special fits Toads MUCH better than Luigi or Pikachu, who never use a move like that in any game ever

Mellon wrote:

Actually that side special fits Toads MUCH better than Luigi or Pikachu, who never use a move like that in any game ever

True. I just think that if we were to keep Toad's current side B that it should work a bit differently than the other two's side B's. Before 0.9 that was the case, though. Pikachu had the standard version, Luigi had the 1/8 misfire chance and Toad could charge his side B indefinitely. By 0.9, however, Luigi could also charge his Green missile indefinitely, making Toad's side B less unique.

Mellon wrote:

Actually that side special fits Toads MUCH better than Luigi or Pikachu, who never use a move like that in any game ever

WRONG! Pikachu does use Skull Bash in the source...through TM, that is.

I always thought that green missile fit Luigi because of how silly he is in Smash Bros. I mean, just look at his artwork in Smash 4.

OmegaSteve777 wrote:

I always thought that green missile fit Luigi because of how silly he is in Smash Bros. I mean, just look at his artwork in Smash 4.

And this: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140227140605/ssb/images/8/85/Luigimeleeclear.png
That aside, I loved Toad's front flip side special from the earlier builds. I forgot what it was called, if it even had a name in the first place.

Actually, Pikachu can only learn Skull Bash in Gen 1, where Pichu didn't exist. This means that he cannot have both Volt Tackle and Skull Bash in the same moveset.

A similar thing goes for Mewtwo, who can only learn Teleport in Gen 1 through TM and cannot be transferred to Gen V to learn Psystrike due to Gen III lacking the ability to transfer old Pokemon. Man, a lot of Melee's special attacks are just bull.

That, my friend, is Sakurai to you!
At least most of the made up attacks, like Luigi's Green Missile, Yoshi's Egg Roll, Fox' and Captain Falcon's whole moveset or Ganondorf's Brawl moveset, actually look like attacks that would not be out of character for the characters to use, but they simply don't use that because there was no opportunity for it yet.
Yes, I can clearly see Captain Falcon using his Falcon Punch whenever he is not driving a car.

I believe that Toad's moveset is great as it is. Toad is fast, and has good kill power. His main issue is dealing with projectiles. I feel like Toad isn't given enough attention.

Finally, one of the things I wanted more for SSB series is true.

The sympathetic and loyal friend of Princess Peach is one of my most favourite characters in the Super Mario series ever. I don't know what's wrong with Sakurai, but, I find unfair he isn't playable; and, frankly, I find obnoxious Peach uses him as a shield for her Neutral Special...But well...

As I said previously, nice detail making him playable. It's curious how he, being little, can have a bigger strength XD.

I just have a question about Toad. Does his neutral special have a windbox? If not I feel like it should. Oh, and wouldn't it be cool if the side special had a chance at pulling a mega mushroom/a bullet bill? The mega mushroom would function just like the item, and the bullet bill would be like the golden mushroom but be sent a much farther distance.

I see the Mega Mushroom as a FS TBO. The Pow Block could be the Down B because Vegie pulling is Peach's thing

Braystar wrote:

I see the Mega Mushroom as a FS TBO. The Pow Block could be the Down B because Vegie pulling is Peach's thing

I dunno, but I feel like that could be a bit of a lackluster final Smash if you just become really big and can Smash stuff. The POW block just feels so satisfying to use, and right now toad's turnips can be only thrown right and left. Not sure if this is a bug, or it hasn't been implemented yet, but I feel that differentiates Toad from Peach a bit, where she can carry her turnips and throw them anywhere.

Well, the MM could be an item.

Mega Mushroom would be like when you are on Giant Smash and you get the Super Mushroom

WHAT IF YOU GOT THE MEGA MUSHROOM AT 200% SIZE

HOLY CRAP

CALM DOWN

I CAN'T

HUGE!
HUGE!
HUGE!
Buttlord GT would be so proud!

That would be... TOADZILLA.

And, what do you think about he's final smash? i find kinda easy to evade and hard to direct, specially in stages like Green Hill Zone and Distorsion World.

Doispro wrote:

That would be... TOADZILLA.

And, what do you think about he's final smash? i find kinda easy to evade and hard to direct, specially in stages like Green Hill Zone and Distorsion World.

It’s pronounced ‘his’

sorry, there are some times when i forget some words in english, and yes, english is not my native language.

MonadoBoy16 wrote:

Doispro wrote:

That would be... TOADZILLA.

And, what do you think about he's final smash? i find kinda easy to evade and hard to direct, specially in stages like Green Hill Zone and Distorsion World.

It’s pronounced ‘his’

No disrespect, but out of everything he said your only concern is a grammar error?

Anyways, i dont think Toad's final smash has any issues, personally. Though not sure if it has a significant difference in the recent version compared to previous ones.

If Toad's side-b was changed, it could be a move that works like Palutena's custom that allows her to damage enemies while running since the toad race as a whole are pretty shaky.