Falco Lombardi Discussion

Discuss, share opinions, ideas, etc. about Falco Lombardi.

Shine + Dair = New Meta

who new it was so easy to nullify most of a character's moves so that you only need to use 2 of them?

2 things about that tournament:
- Thanks to a bad oversight, teching the ground was literally impossible during hitstun. Majority of those Dair followups should have been easy to get out of
- DI shine horizontally and its impossible for Falco to followup with a Dair. No one used this
Abuse of those 2 things are a big part of what made this possible.

Perfect Hell wrote:

2 things about that tournament:
- Thanks to a bad oversight, teching the ground was literally impossible during hitstun.  Majority of those Dair followups should have been easy to get out of
- DI shine horizontally and its impossible for Falco to followup with a Dair.  No one used this
Abuse of those 2 things are a big part of what made this possible.

I see.

Too bad Falco ended dominating the tournament.

Maybe you guys could have given some insight (like with DI) to his opponents.

It did give me some good ideas on balancing Falco. He was overpowered, i just dont think its as bad as the video made it look. However he had recently gotten a buffed recovery, and then a buffed shine, but no proper drawbacks. This tournament gave me some good ideas on where to place the drawbacks (i also ended up going back on the increased recovery)

Sorry for the bump, but I was just curious and too lazy to boot up my computer: Is Crusade Falco based around his Melee or Brawl playstyles, or has he been changed to have a new and unique playstyle?

It's a weird mix of both.

He has a mix of Brawl/Melee Shine in this version, he has Brawl's nair and up-tilt. A new Fair, what looks like a Melee/new Uair, Melee's Jab and Sm4sh's bair.

It's a weird mix

DSwift wrote:

It's a weird mix of both.

He has a mix of Brawl/Melee Shine in this version, he has Brawl's nair and up-tilt. A new Fair, what looks like a Melee/new Uair, Melee's Jab and Sm4sh's bair.

It's a weird mix

Checked him out and yeah, you're right. He is a strange mix, and I really like that. It's changed just enough to feel new, like how Falco changes entirely in each new Smash game.

What I'm really curious about though is how Falco mains play him. Do they play defensively like in Brawl or do they use him like the Glass Cannon that he was in Melee?

He's a bit of a glass cannon.

You can play rushdown really well with him and it's quite scary. But you can also camp well

DSwift wrote:

He's a bit of a glass cannon.

You can play rushdown really well with him and it's quite scary. But you can also camp well

So more like Melee but with a touch of Brawl...I like it! Just wish his sprites weren't so...awkward.

I mean have you seen his Down Throw holy shit

If there are some ideas for decloning him from Fox, here I have some ideas:

-Neutral Special: Homing Launcher: Falco uses a bazooka cannon for shooting a homing missile to his enemies. (Falco can use aslo this weapon as a club on some of his Normal, Aerial, and Smash Attacks)

-Side Special: Swoop: Similar to Falco Phantasm; however, he now jumps hitting an enemy with his two hands. The attack increases the damage and knockback, especially at the beginning. The move sends opponents diagonally and has slight KO potential at very high percentages.

-Up Special: Dive Bomber: Similar to Falco's Fire Bird; however, now, he dashes instantly, and later, he delivers a stomping kick to his enemy when falling on him/her.

-Down Special: Ground Control: Falco uses two blaster guns for shooting to his enemies. The attack can be also done in both directions (in front and behind Falco)



(About the rest of his moveset (including the Final Smash), there's no trouble XD)



What do you think? Comment, please.

I'd honestly suggest making Falco a bit of a stance character that mixes aspects of his Melee and Brawl incarnations.

Have one of his taunts (I'd say the one where he kicks his shine around) change whether he tosses or holds his shine. Maybe make it determine whether his n-air is a sex kick or the spinning attack and the speed of his lasers as well (a bit slower in his shine toss stance for zoning, and a bit faster in his Melee stance for racking up damage)

Sounds cool, but doesn't sound very "Falco" imo.

MarioStrikerMurphy1994 wrote:

-Down Special: Ground Control: Falco uses two blaster guns for shooting to his enemies. The attack can be also done in both directions (in front and behind Falco)

This move sounds pretty cool. I can see Falco pulling out two blasters, aim in two different directions and firing.

Please don't change Falco's moveset, it's already good enough.

TrinitroMan wrote:

Please don't change Falco's moveset, it's already good enough.

Yeah, give it to a new star fox character instead! like slippy or something

I don't know Peppy?

The 2 blasters should be a N-Special because no one would forgive us if Falco can't use the reflector

Can Falco's F-Air spike? It's an axe kick and it looks like it would, but then again I might be doing it wrong. Help

How does short-hop double laser work? It seems to require a very precise timing.