CrusaDLC Pre-Development Discussion

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The point of CrusaDLC is to add characters from unrepped series that didn't make it into the main roster. Hence, characters like DeMille and Lip, whose series weren't getting representation on the main roster, were going to be in DLC. Due to this, there would be very few characters from already repped series, likely coming down to one for each of Nintendo's big four series (Mario, Pokemon, LoZ, and Kirby) and possibly a Fire Emblem rep because there currently isn't a newcomer (I still count Roy as a veteran) and from what I can tell, a lot of people want a FE newcomer.

•Current Character Roster:
Characters:
-DeMille/Aretha (Tomato Adventure) (In by Dettadeus Personal Choice)
-Deoxys (Pokemon: Ruby and Sapphire) (Winner of the Pokemon DLC Poll)
-Meowth (Pokemon: Red and Blue) (Winner of the Pokemon DLC Poll)
Alts:

•Current Stage Roster:
*insert stage roster here*

The Character Roster will have a total of 25 characters and however many alts we see fit (alternate-form characters do not take up roster space).
The Stage Roster does not have a set limit at the moment. It's basically any stages we have available that can be put into the game.

CrusaDLC Poll Threads:
Thread 1. Thread 2.

IMO Dr. Mario should be an alt for Mario in the main game.

I personally feel that Quote, Agumon, Shantae, Zant, and Petey would be great candidates.

...Right. Wow I entirely forgot that I have roster powers now.
That list was copied from the thread I had made in the Dev-BR back on the SSBCOF, with no changes made. Which is why it's like that.

THANK YOU NINJA SENSORS

@Generic: Quote could be in the main game if sprites become available. He'd definitely fit, and I highly doubt anyone would have objections to him being in.
Most of the others have gotten a bit of discussion from DMX, Falcon and Phantom. Petey in particular.

Hey! What about Isaac? He's probably the only character I will want as a DLC.

plasmis wrote:

Hey! What about Isaac? He's probably the only character I will want as a DLC.

Because he should be a regular character, already in the game.

Isaac's likely to get on the main roster, which is why he isn't up there.

EDIT: O_o
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Dettadeus wrote:

Isaac's likely to get on the main roster, which is why he isn't up there.

EDIT: O_o
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YESH!!! SCORE one for the home team! Finally, I don't have to hide and run away from reality. xD

Oh, Taizo Hori(Dig Dug) would be a cool DLC guy as well....heheh....

Dettadeus wrote:

•Current Character Roster:
Characters:
-DeMille/Aretha (Tomato Adventure) (In by Dettadeus Personal Choice)I personally don't like this idea. The two characters, I mean. I'd be all for DeMille by himself. But whatever. You do know this means no Minister, right? (On personal choice matters)
-Lip (Panel de Pon) (In by Nights Owl Personal Choice) She's not part of the team anymore, though. I would understand her getting a character if she was still with us.
Alts:
-Weegee (No Specific Representation..?) (In by Gigapichu Personal Choice) Why does he get a character? Also, why a meme spawned character? Weegee doesn't actually exist in game canon. Just the sprite he's based off of.
-Pichu (Pokemon Gold/Silver) (Melee-vet status) Supprt. As long as she's not a clone, and she's Spiky-Eared.
-Dr. Mario (Dr. Mario) (Melee-vet status) Alt, please.

•Current Stage Roster:
*insert stage roster here*

The Character Roster will have a total of 25 characters and however many alts we see fit (alternate-form characters do not take up roster space).
The Stage Roster does not have a set limit at the moment. It's basically any stages we have available that can be put into the game.

Pretty soon there'll be a massive poll for DLC characters; however, the main roster must be finalized before this happens so we know what characters still need to be added to DLC. Whoa, whoa, wait. You mean, we AREN'T using all the characters in Crusade already and expanding from there? We're starting from scratch?

Again, I copied this right from my Dev-BR thread and didn't change anything. I should probably do something about that.

DeMille/Aretha was my personal choice because I assumed the Ancient Minister would be able to get in on popular vote (which is likely still the case), whereas DeMille is pretty unknown due to only being in one game that wasn't released outside of Japan. However, that one game set the style of the later Mario RPG games (Super Star Saga, Partners in Time, and Bowser's Inside Story) with its attack mini-game system, and has gotten pretty good reviews. Not to mention DeMille, even on his own, would be extremely unique considering what I have planned for him.

Even without Nights' personal choice affecting it, Lip would get in. She's popular enough.

GigaPichu got a character because he was a sub-dev. I gave him a choice so he'd continue to side with me on most issues, as well as spriting Ridley (massive project much?). He also had completed Weegee's spritesheet.

Oh come now, Golden. You know I was already de-cloning Pichu. Spikey-Eared, however, is another story. That would make Pichu cease to be a Melee rep because it's a different Pichu.

Dr. Mario is in the alt section. Therefore alt.


@Roster: Somewhere between 50 and 60 characters are going to stay from Crusade's current roster. There're quite a few characters that can be cut and replaced with better ones. Once we have finalized the roster, this roster discussion can really pick up.

Pichu should be an alt, there's no need to make him a separate character.
Topic was covered in the chat room, and there's no delete button. WHY

Again, Toon Link should then be made an alt. And Paper Mario.
If not, that'd be hypocracy.

EDIT: Slashed because Generic asked me to.

Anyways, I feel that if Pichu is being decloned, it should not be an alt.

Different series treat their alts in different ways. Toon Link represents a different canon of the LoZ series. Paper Mario represents a different genre of the Mario games, as well as having its own canon separate from the mainstream Mario games. Pichu and Pikachu both represent parts of the main Pokemon games, which all run off of the same canon and storyline. They also represent two games whose canons are linked.

That may be so, but there is nothing that proves that Smash Pichu is the same as Smash Pikachu. We can't just assume. That'd be like making Boshi an alt of Yoshi just because he's a rogue Yoshi.

Out of all the gaming characters he picks Weegee?!? How is this even acceptable? I really don't see this choice getting a lot of votes honestly. But only time will tell.

Lip would be awesome. I think we should add Muddy Mole also if he doesn't make it to the main roster. Takamaru & Duck Hunt Dog if they dont make it to the main roster also.

IMO, Dr. Mario shouldn't even be on this poll. he should be the alt for Mario.

Dr. Mario isn't on the poll. He is the alt for Mario. What's in the OP is "confirmed" stuff.
*is about to fix the OP*
*has fixed the OP*

Dettadeus wrote:

Dr. Mario isn't on the poll. He is the alt for Mario. What's in the OP is "confirmed" stuff.
*is about to fix the OP*
*has fixed the OP*

I'm fine with this. Even though a Mortal Kombat rep is not necessary to be on the main roster, do you feel that we can at least consider someone like Scorpion for the DLC poll? Or is there too much against him ever being playable that disqualifies him?

I'd probably cut him from the roster then plop him on the poll and see if people want him.

Dettadeus wrote:

I'd probably cut him from the roster then plop him on the poll and see if people want him.

Yea, this sounds reasonable if anything.

Added "Current Potentials" section.

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Current potentials for the Character Roster:
-Quote (Cave Story)
-Currently undecided Final Fantasy representative (Final Fantasy)
-Dark Matter (Kirby)

When you suggest a character that makes sense but probably won't fit on the roster then it'll go in this section. Once it hits 50 or so I'm going to do a massive poll.
If there are characters that should be on here already, remind me, since it's kinda midnight where I am.

Cupcakes wrote:

I personally feel that Agumon, Shantae, Zant, and Petey would be great candidates.

And the Dig Dug rep
Also, Nightmare>Dark Matter, because Nightmare came first.

I say these would be good candidates:

Mario series: Rosalina (if she is removed) & either Geno or P.Mario (I feel only 1of them should be on the main roster to rep the RPG [how about a poll between the 2 to see who goes to the main and whose DLC candidate?])

Zelda series: Tingle, even though I would love to have Midna (imp/human)

Pokemon series: either Meowth or Deoxys, depends on the poll.

Kirby series: Dark Matter or Nightmare, not sure which. This should be on a poll to decide which 2 should be DLC.

Fire Emblem series: Not sure to be honest. Think we should have a separate poll to decide who will be DLC. Candidate for that poll: Micaiah, Hardin, Black Knight, Hector, Lyndis

Non-repped series:

Starfy (legend of starfy)
Ray MK (custom robo)
Chibi Robo (chibi robo)
Tom Nook (Animal Crossing)
Andy (Advance Wars)

3rd party:
Spyro (spyro series)
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)

Thats all I have for now

0² wrote:

Cupcakes wrote:

I personally feel that Agumon, Shantae, Zant, and Petey would be great candidates.

And the Dig Dug rep
Also, Nightmare>Dark Matter, because Nightmare came first.

I agree, however, Dark Matter is easier to work with, and it saves up if we want to use Soul Calibur's Nightmare.

As for Nightmare in Crusade (DLC). He is a Namco rep. Pac Man alone is perfect to rep the company as a whole in my opinion. Its Not that Im Strongly Against having a 2nd Namco rep, but I doubt its much needed either.

Forgot to put up that old DLC list we were making before:


1. Haggar
2. Nightmare
3. Shantae
4. Glover
5. Frogger
6. Spyro
7. Agumon
8. Ryu Hayabusa
9. Heavy
10. Phoenix Wright
11. Ty the Tasmanian Tiger
12. Lloyd Irving or Jude Mathis (From Tales of Xillia)
13. Sukapon
14. Harkinian
15. Duck Hunt Dog
16. Arthur (From ghosts ‘n Goblins)
17. Metal Sawnik
18. Skull Kid
19. Slime
20. Klonoa
21. Rayman
22. Sackboy
23. Sly Cooper
24. Andy
25. King Hippo

If there is any errors, such as some characters are here that are already on the roster, I apologize in advance, since this has just been copy/pasted.

*Joins* Well, let me see...
That list is fine. What characters have no sprites or base to work on?
Also, will I get in verterans?, I joined in december of 2010 on the first forum.

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Excalibur wrote:

1. Haggar

Should be on the main roster.

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2. Nightmare

Specify if from Kirby or Soul Calibur plz

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8. Ryu Hayabusa

I'd perfer it if he was on the main roster, but whatever.

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9. Heavy

Never been on a Nintendo console.

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10. Phoenix Wright

Should be on the main roster.

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11. Ty the Tasmanian Tiger

YESSSSSSSSS

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12. Lloyd Irving or Jude Mathis (From Tales of Xillia)

Why not Cless?

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21. Rayman

I don't see why he couldn't be on the main roster...I mean, he's already extremely unique. Represents a good franchise. And IMO the main roster should have at least one non-limbed character(aside from Gooey) and Rayman takes the cake. And it'd be weird to have two DLC characters who don't have arms/legs.

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22. Sackboy
23. Sly Cooper

Never been on a Nintendo console.


And to answer your questions, 85, TRC-Veterans are people from a secret forum we had a bit ago.
That you were never on.

0² wrote:

And to answer your questions, 85, TRC-Veterans are people from a secret forum we had a bit ago.
That you were never on.

Ah, I see.