***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER
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Xalciss Level 4 CPU
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Subject: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:15 pm
Nintendo has, once again, failed to understand the concept of fair use and are now attacking 500 fangames. They have also stated that 500 is not their cap off; expect more games to be killed in the future.
As far as the public knows, SSF2 has not been effected by any of the take downs but as I said before, Nintendo has stated that more take downs are imminent. What does this mean for Crusade? It very well may be crushed beneath's Nintendo's corporate foot along with many other fan games. I don't think any of us, nor the devs have the means to fight this decision on the grounds of fair use so are we completely at the mercy of Nintendo's whims?
Feel free to tell me what you guys think, this VERY important.
wheeled_tank Level 6 CPU
603 wheeled_tank
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:20 pm
Crusade wasn't affected by the GameJolt wipe (which occurred only a few days ago and hit many other "polished" fan games), so as of right now, I think it is ok
SmashBros._L0ver Level 2 CPU
37 N/A
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:23 pm
oh no strike of nintendo fucking evil you nintendo
Braystar Level 7 CPU
1231 N/A
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:04 pm
You know why? Both games aren't 100% complete.
OmegaSteve777 Level 8 CPU
1750
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:05 pm
Braystar wrote:
You know why? Both games aren't 100% complete.
There was a Mario 64 HD Demo that got shut down so...
Braystar Level 7 CPU
1231 N/A
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:12 pm
Well AM2R and Pokemon Uranium were in development for years, Nintendo had plenty of time to shut them down. But they waited until the games were finished. Remember when Iwata said they didn't think people who made fan creations were criminals? What happened now?
GamingGryffindor Level 6 CPU
742
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:04 pm
Braystar wrote:
Well AM2R and Pokemon Uranium were in development for years, Nintendo had plenty of time to shut them down. But they waited until the games were finished. Remember when Iwata said they didn't think people who made fan creations were criminals? What happened now?
Iwata died, and got replaced by this guy who dances in the Yo-Kai Watch commercials.
Braystar Level 7 CPU
1231 N/A
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:28 pm
Wait, THAT guy's the new President of Nintendo?
GamingGryffindor Level 6 CPU
742
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:39 pm
Braystar wrote:
Wait, THAT guy's the new President of Nintendo?
He is IIRC
Braystar Level 7 CPU
1231 N/A
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:49 pm
No wonder Nintendo is going apeshit over fan games.
SmashBros._L0ver Level 2 CPU
37 N/A
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:40 am
#SaveNintedoFangames!
Slissith
2277 ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:05 am
#prayforcrusade #smashlivesmatter #jesuisssbc
procrastinatingDestiny Level 6 CPU
875 DestinyIntwined
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:07 pm
The thing is, fair use is not being used here
TaXMaN Level 6 CPU
689
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:20 pm
I can't help but notice Crusade's download page has ad banners on them. Shouldn't they be turned off?
Braystar Level 7 CPU
1231 N/A
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:14 pm
So the reason Nintendo shut down the Gamejolt fangames is because Gamejolt gets 30% of ad revenue. So this time it was justified.
deepstate Level 3 CPU
94
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:18 am
literally doesnt matter because no corporate/legal force can remove from circulation free software that is already widely available. like literally nothing is going to happen lol.
only distribution services are ostensibly at attack here and even then their worst punishment is marginally decreased site traffic and 500 fewer hyperlinks on their homepage
there are more pressing issues in the sphere of copyright law right now. even in terms of media and other inconsequential stuff - like music industry elites only championing fair use laws when one of their own is at risk (look up the blurred lines appeal)
some dudes mario with a gun game or whatever is the lowest possible concern in this corporate oligarchic hell guys
Slissith
2277 ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:44 am
To be fair, bro's got a point. Worst case scenario, Crusade is forced to go "underground".
For Glorious Fun Level 2 CPU
32 N/A
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:33 am
So we could do what Al Capone and his gang did during the alcohol ban and play Super Smash Bros. Crusade in secret until Nintendo lays off on the fangame hunt?
Slissith
2277 ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:14 pm
For Glorious Fun wrote:
So we could do what Al Capone and his gang did during the alcohol ban and play Super Smash Bros. Crusade in secret until Nintendo lays off on the fangame hunt?
Development would have to cease but, most likely, distribution of the latest public build via a third party would be possible.
Despatche Level 1 CPU
2 N/A
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:40 am
Look, here's the thing.
These games are in "grave danger" because they're free alternatives to a paid product... by using that paid product's IP. Nintendo is going after "fangames" because people like the OP have no idea what free use is, and that's incredibly dangerous. This entire mess started when people started doing things like putting up Patreons and demanding that Nintendo acknowledge their fundamentally illegal games. This is why AM2R was taken down!
No, it really does not matter that some of these games are released for "free", never mind the Patreon and GameJolt money drama. No, it really does not matter that Sega has decided to "open" a series that is routinely laughed at and treated with immense disrespect (some of the people in the Sonic community treat Sonic Team as wanted criminals, no matter what Sonic Team actually does). No, the whole "legally you don't have to defend copyright" thing has nothing to do with anything, because this is about brand power.
Mario, Zelda, Metroid, whatever else, these are not yours. These are not any fans'. These are Nintendo's, and you must respect that. I'm sorry that your precious Metroid is dead because of the Metroid guy himself. That doesn't mean you "own" the Metroid series now.
Cemu has a fucking Patreon, guys! Seriously. Why does Nintendo have any reason to respect its fans when they do things like basically selling emulators for very recent consoles? No, really, Cemu locks versions behind Patreon and is explicitly advertised as "BotW on the PC for free".
crazybark Level 4 CPU
236 crazybark
Subject: Re: ***YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE*** Crusade and SSF2 might be in GRAVE DANGER Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:23 am
yes...and?
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