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PostSubject: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 11:25 am

The black mage is the greatest character of all time, please add him. I have a tattoo of the black mage, I hope that shows how serious I am.
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 11:27 am

I would recommend giving some actual reasons as to why he should be in, rather than, 'He's really cool'. What can he do? Why is he "The greatest character of all time?"
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 11:39 am

But thats all there is. Hes just...really cool.

Not but in all seriousness he has a lot of potential as a character.

First of all he is a caster, something not often seen in smash. So it would just naturally be a good/diverse addition. He also can have a lot of diversity in his moveset, including the use of his staff to perform melee attacks with his tilts.

His special moves would be really cool to think about. Lots of choices here. I think an obvious choice for one move would be haste, used to give himself and any teammates a speed/lag boost or something. Haste was his most useful spell in the original game. Obviously teleport/time stop for other specials. Possibly a fireball as an offense special.

Aerials would be the hardest to come up with I think. In general the Dark Mage is just a really interesting and mysterious character, with a lot of tools at his disposal, and I think all of those things make him a shoe in for a smash game.

Also, hes really freaking cool.

https://i.imgur.com/quGJKkr.jpg
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 3:41 pm

Dubforce wrote:
I have a tattoo of the black mage, I hope that shows how serious I am.
Holy crap are you serious
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 3:45 pm

Dubforce wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/quGJKkr.jpg
you're serious oh my god
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 3:48 pm

I don't know if you don't like it or not

LOOOOOL
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 4:51 pm

Black Mage does have a change to get into the Suggestion Poll. However, it will have to be done over on the Candidate Cut Poll. Since Chocobo is our only Final Fantasy rep, we can have a Final Fantasy character either replace Chocobo or get in as a 2nd rep. So far, the proposal has not been done for this series ever since Chocobo replaced Kefka on the poll months back.
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 4:55 pm

This dude actually got the character permanently inked on his body

That's dedication
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 5:08 pm

Thats awesome! I guess I'll go ahead and do that.

Also, the tattoo is less about the character and more about a bunch of other stuff. Lots of meaning.
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 5:39 pm

Wait, Kefka isn't on the poll alongside Chocobo?? Welp.

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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 5:40 pm

So where do I go to add Black Mage to the poll?
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 5:49 pm

Well, because FF has a character on our official roster, only one suggestion poll slot is allowed to the series. Chocobo already takes that slot, so you'll have to start a poll to replace the Chocobo with Black Mage.
https://projectcrusade.forumotion.com/t2201-candidate-cut-poll

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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 5:53 pm

Alright, I posted about it in that thread. Is that all I should do, or should I make a new thread with a poll?
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySat Dec 28, 2013 7:07 pm

That's all you need to do

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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 3:11 pm

Considering Black Mage is already in SSF2, I don't think adding him would be smart.
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 3:22 pm

Axel wrote:
Considering Black Mage is already in SSF2, I don't think adding him would be smart.
yeah adding mario was a huge mistake
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 3:24 pm

notbro wrote:
Axel wrote:
Considering Black Mage is already in SSF2, I don't think adding him would be smart.
yeah adding mario was a huge mistake

My point is major newcomers to SSF2 like BM and Lloyd would make it seem as if Crusade was copying SSF2.
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 3:25 pm

Axel wrote:
notbro wrote:
Axel wrote:
Considering Black Mage is already in SSF2, I don't think adding him would be smart.
yeah adding mario was a huge mistake

My point is major newcomers to SSF2 like BM and Lloyd would make it seem as if Crusade was copying SSF2.
why does that even matter they're both plagiarizing an existing copyrighted series anyway
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 3:45 pm

Axel wrote:
notbro wrote:
Axel wrote:
Considering Black Mage is already in SSF2, I don't think adding him would be smart.
yeah adding mario was a huge mistake

My point is major newcomers to SSF2 like BM and Lloyd would make it seem as if Crusade was copying SSF2.
Then if Black Mage is being implmented into Crusade in some way, his moveset would have to be different from SSF2's. But honestly, does it really matter? The SSF2 community gets butt hurt over the smallest inconveniences.
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 4:46 pm

Gaiz we stole mega man and Goku. Fan games are not allowed to make the same logical choice

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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 4:55 pm

Perfect Hell wrote:
Gaiz we stole mega man and Goku. Fan games are not allowed to make the same logical choice

Explain to me how Goku is a logical choice?
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 4:57 pm

Axel wrote:
Perfect Hell wrote:
Gaiz we stole mega man and Goku. Fan games are not allowed to make the same logical choice

Explain to me how Goku is a logical choice?
he's fun
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 5:25 pm

Just because SSF2 has him doesn't mean we can't. They have Megaman we have Megaman, they have Bomberman we have Bomberman, just because we use the same character doesn't mean we're stealing the character from another fangame when neither of the games actually own the characters in the first place. I would say it'd be cool to have Black Mage in Crusade.
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 5:46 pm

^ there's my point. Goku isn't exactly logical but it's another example of characters we share and how there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. He has the better example with bomberman

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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 5:54 pm

Plus, we had Bomberman and Megaman first. (I think we also had Goku first)
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 5:54 pm

notbro wrote:
Axel wrote:
Perfect Hell wrote:
Gaiz we stole mega man and Goku. Fan games are not allowed to make the same logical choice

Explain to me how Goku is a logical choice?
he's fun

a fun and fast-paced addition to the game
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 5:58 pm

Mega Man is an obvious choice, still.

Bomberman? Fair enough. But sharing TOO MANY characters still seems like it's copying to me.

Which is why I think Black Mage and Lloyd should stay away.

As far as Final Fantasy goes, I think Warrior of Light and Chocobo would both be more fun.
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 6:06 pm

we very obviously had bomberman first so you better watch your assumptions, mister.
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 7:57 pm

Oh my god axel
*puts gun to head
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PostSubject: Re: Black Mage   Black Mage EmptySun Dec 29, 2013 8:16 pm

It´s not like we´re copying SSF2.

I mean, they don´t own Black Mage (and we certainly don´t own him too), and even if he gets to be Crusade, he´ll have a diferent moveset, so, what´s the problem?
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