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PostSubject: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:44 am

Hi, Sorry for being new here i'll been wondering made be wondering about the development of the game.

Was there any character that was scrapped when the old dev team was replaced by the new team? If so, What were they? Or how many?
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:22 am

Like, characters that were in the game but then removed by the new dev team? There aren't any. We've only added characters.

However, the old dev team did remove characters throughout a few versions. IIRC some earlier versions included Zant from Twilight Princess. The very first build also had Petey Piranha, who was absent for quite a while before the new dev team brought him back. Mega Man also used to be Mega Man X, but the old dev team replaced him with the classic version. There were also old rosters with characters that would never be allowed on the roster today, such as James Bond and Darth Vader.
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:44 am

actually you should replace goku with james bond

this isnt even a joke bond would be a way better 4th party character
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:30 am

Yes a real life person would definitely be better than a weeb cartoon character

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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:57 am

>leisure suit larry

On a serious note, welcome to the forums, and I'd like to see this topic get some posts even though I can just annoy Dust in SlackChat to tell me who was scrapped
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:28 pm

Zant is the only character who has been playable and then removed completely never to return unless you count Mega Man X who was replaced with regular Mega Man.

Mewtwo was added and then removed for a while before returning due to some conflict of interest issues.

There are characters who have come very close to being added (Some of whom even having their spriting finished/coding started) but I don't think I'm allowed to talk about those.

Leisure Suit Larry was never planned to be in, however a former dev did want him.

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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:40 pm

Dustination wrote:
Zant is the only character who has been playable and then removed completely never to return unless you count Mega Man X who was replaced with regular Mega Man.

Mewtwo was added and then removed for a while before returning due to some conflict of interest issues.

There are characters who have come very close to being added (Some of whom even having their spriting finished/coding started) but I don't think I'm allowed to talk about those.

Leisure Suit Larry was never planned to be in, however a former dev did want him.
Give us Zant back (he's trash lol)

Is there any chance of those very close to being finished characters returning?
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:47 pm

I see, thanks i guess i can try to be active around here.

Also, Wasn't Rosalina a planned character but scrapped as well?
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:41 pm

Dustination wrote:
Yes a real life person would definitely be better than a weeb cartoon character

At least Bond was actually planned for a Smash game (also he's not a real person what)

that said i was joking anyway so
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:48 pm

You know what I meant when I said real person

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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:53 pm

i actually didn't

i mean he's been portrayed by live-action actors but i'd go so far as to say he's more fantastical than characters that are already in the game

little mac's a damn good lightweight boxer, snake's literally just a special ops soldier in terms of fighting style, and ryu is a martial arts master with a few more fireballs than his real-world equivalents. james bond has access to a level of technology that's outright absurd for his time period (assuming we're talking the goldeneye version) and is capable of performing impossible physical feats for a skinny guy in a suit

i don't know why im writing so much about james bond i wasnt even being serious about him
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:56 pm

Kzinssie wrote:
i actually didn't

i mean he's been portrayed by live-action actors but i'd go so far as to say he's more fantastical than characters that are already in the game

little mac's a damn good lightweight boxer, snake's literally just a special ops soldier in terms of fighting style, and ryu is a martial arts master with a few more fireballs than his real-world equivalents. james bond has access to a level of technology that's outright absurd for his time period (assuming we're talking the goldeneye version) and is capable of performing impossible physical feats for a skinny guy in a suit

i don't know why im writing so much about james bond i wasnt even being serious about him
Ryu is basically a superhuman. Come on now.

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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:04 pm

Lockhead wrote:
I see, thanks i guess i can try to be active around here.

Also, Wasn't Rosalina a planned character but scrapped as well?

I started spriting her at one point when the old devs were in charge, but people disliked the idea of her being playable so I stopped

then a few years later rosalina was confirmed for Smash 4, how the times change
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:09 pm

Lego Shaq wrote:

Ryu is basically a superhuman. Come on now.


My point is, so's James Bond. He's slightly less superhuman in his own abilities, but his gadgets are completely unrealistic.
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:13 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:22 pm

Kzinssie wrote:
Lego Shaq wrote:

Ryu is basically a superhuman. Come on now.


My point is, so's James Bond. He's slightly less superhuman in his own abilities, but his gadgets are completely unrealistic.
His GADGETS are "superhuman", not James Bond
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:25 pm

He's still slightly superhuman, at least for his body type. It's less exaggerated, but he performs some unrealistic feats and survives some crazy stuff he shouldn't be able too.

this is a dumb discussion
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:34 pm

Doesn't Snake fit the bill pretty well with all the James Bond-related talk?
The only difference being is that Snake is actually in the game. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:35 pm

yeah exactly, snake is a far more realistic character than bond
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:49 pm

You can't be serious
This was never about his abilities anyway

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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:50 pm

i still dont really think he should be in (though i wouldnt have any issue if he did)
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:05 pm

SP wrote:
Lockhead wrote:
I see, thanks i guess i can try to be active around here.

Also, Wasn't Rosalina a planned character but scrapped as well?

I started spriting her at one point when the old devs were in charge, but people disliked the idea of her being playable so I stopped

then a few years later rosalina was confirmed for Smash 4, how the times change

I see, was there any character was scrapped like that too?

Also from what said earlier, does I mean James Bond and darth Vader was gonna be crusade? Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:40 pm

Lockhead wrote:
SP wrote:
Lockhead wrote:
I see, thanks i guess i can try to be active around here.

Also, Wasn't Rosalina a planned character but scrapped as well?

I started spriting her at one point when the old devs were in charge, but people disliked the idea of her being playable so I stopped

then a few years later rosalina was confirmed for Smash 4, how the times change

I see, was there any character was scrapped like that too?

Also from what said earlier, does I mean James Bond and darth Vader was gonna be crusade? Shocked
Yep! James was briefly considered for Smash 64 as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:45 pm

There were a lot of characters like that
One we like to joke about is "Rival Trainer" which iirc was something like Gengar, Scizor, and Aggron

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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:45 am

Lockhead wrote:
SP wrote:
Lockhead wrote:
I see, thanks i guess i can try to be active around here.

Also, Wasn't Rosalina a planned character but scrapped as well?

I started spriting her at one point when the old devs were in charge, but people disliked the idea of her being playable so I stopped

then a few years later rosalina was confirmed for Smash 4, how the times change

I see, was there any character was scrapped like that too?

Also from what said earlier, does I mean James Bond and darth Vader was gonna be crusade? Shocked

Aero the Acrobat was almost fully sprited by one of the older main devs, he is known for his work on characters like Mach Rider
Frank West had like 2 animations by the same dude

James Bond and Darth Vader were both once considered for the game, yes
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:53 am

Which Jump Ultimate Stars character was Aero edited off of
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:31 pm

If I remember correctly...

A few years back, when the character roster were available to the public, there were a few characters on said roster that were considered to be scrapped, specifically, Chocobo of the Final Fantasy series and Cress Albane of the Tales of series. Both characters were polled by the communnity to determine whether they should stay, and ultimately, Chocobo would be replaced by the Warrior of Light and Cress would be replaced by Heihachi Mishima and Klonoa, the latter being currently in Crusade (Klonoa, I mean). However, since the roster has now been closed to the public, The Warrior of Light and Heihachi may have scrapped by now...
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:32 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:15 pm

SS_Maeweather wrote:
I pray you noticed what date those were posted on before you posted these.
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PostSubject: Re: Scrapped Characters?   Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:56 am

I know it was a joke, I just thought it was a little interesting. Smile
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