Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion (NEW)

MercuryHg34 wrote:

Ultimate special attacks should be a meter system like every other fighting game

Smash Bros. isn't a fighting game

notbro wrote:

MercuryHg34 wrote:

Ultimate special attacks should be a meter system like every other fighting game

Smash Bros. isn't a fighting game

It is a game where the sole goal is to kick the crap out of the other player, it's a fighting game.

As for the meter, I'd like to see it added as an option, but I realy do like the friendly nature of the Smash Ball. It makes it a lot easier to get the hang of for new players and it makes it very accessible.

The smash ball coming back is not a suprise at all. However, just like items, they distract players from the match's objective. Alot of the players who grab the smash ball do it just to take it away from other players. I'm not whining about any of the individual smashes per se, but the smash ball is a stain on Smash Bros.

It's supposed to be a distraction, to mix things up. But the players still can (and probably will) beat the crap out of each other to stop others from getting it. In some cases this may end without anyone getting it at all, if both/all players are skilled enough.
And this mechanic was supposed to be implemented in 64, so if they did that back then, you probably wouldn't be complaining as much now - and there's many reasons I'm saying this.

Ness_64 wrote:

It's supposed to be a distraction, to mix things up. But the players still can (and probably will) beat the crap out of each other to stop others from getting it. In some cases this may end without anyone getting it at all, if both/all players are skilled enough.
And this mechanic was supposed to be implemented in 64, so if they did that back then, you probably wouldn't be complaining as much now - and there's many reasons I'm saying this.

The last thing that I want in a fight with somebody is a mix up independent of the players themselves. Also, I wouldn't consider what they wanted to include in a game made nine years prior to Brawl as a major factor. If it was so important to them, why didn't they put them in Melee?

Don't like the Smash Ball? Just don't have it on.
Simple as that.

GoldenDiddy wrote:

Don't like the Smash Ball? Just don't have it on.
Simple as that.

That's why I play with them off. Although you have to admit that with a meter system and balanced final smashes in relation to each other, final smashes could technically be tourney legal. I mean if supers are legal in marvel or street fighter because of that then why can't it be true of smash as well?

Yea, I never was a fan of items, Smash balls, hazards, etc. I usually prefer them off. I hope we can have stage hazards off, though a part of me feels that is not gonna happen for some reason.

Smash King wrote:

Yea, I never was a fan of items, Smash balls, hazards, etc. I usually prefer them off. I hope we can have stage hazards off, though a part of me feels that is not gonna happen for some reason.

Well I suppose the easy answer to that would be play the non-hazardous stages.

Uh, odd one outta the bunch here, I like the idea of Smash Balls... Yes, it's a distraction, but in a good way. When I see a Smash Ball, I have 2 options, wait for someone to go for it while they're distracted and destroy them, or get it myself and destroy them. As much as I can see people wanting a bar, I still prefer the Smash Ball. And honestly, we knew this was returning since the game was announced, since we saw Villager attempting to grab one on his "Newcomer Picture".

But yeah, cool Final Smashes, Smash Balls, yay...

Don't hate me :p

Guys, along with Smash meters we should have cross-counters, advancing guards, shadows moves, x-factor, and fatalities.

HypeConduit wrote:

Guys, along with Smash meters we should have cross-counters, advancing guards, shadows moves, x-factor, and fatalities.

You forgot about Wagers.

HypeConduit wrote:

Smash King wrote:

Yea, I never was a fan of items, Smash balls, hazards, etc. I usually prefer them off. I hope we can have stage hazards off, though a part of me feels that is not gonna happen for some reason.

Well I suppose the easy answer to that would be play the non-hazardous stages.

Yes, but even non-hazardous stages come to a limit in the Smash series.

But yea, I'm expecting final smashes to be revealed through the Pic of the days going forward.

HypeConduit wrote:

Smash King wrote:

Yea, I never was a fan of items, Smash balls, hazards, etc. I usually prefer them off. I hope we can have stage hazards off, though a part of me feels that is not gonna happen for some reason.

Well I suppose the easy answer to that would be play the non-hazardous stages.

Of which there are not many of (at least compared to the hazardous ones) and playing on them over and over gets old after a while.

Mr. Kaneda wrote:

HypeConduit wrote:

Smash King wrote:

Yea, I never was a fan of items, Smash balls, hazards, etc. I usually prefer them off. I hope we can have stage hazards off, though a part of me feels that is not gonna happen for some reason.

Well I suppose the easy answer to that would be play the non-hazardous stages.

Of which there are not many of (at least compared to the hazardous ones) and playing on them over and over gets old after a while.

Not for me =)

MercuryHg34 wrote:

Mr. Kaneda wrote:

HypeConduit wrote:

Smash King wrote:

Yea, I never was a fan of items, Smash balls, hazards, etc. I usually prefer them off. I hope we can have stage hazards off, though a part of me feels that is not gonna happen for some reason.

Well I suppose the easy answer to that would be play the non-hazardous stages.

Of which there are not many of (at least compared to the hazardous ones) and playing on them over and over gets old after a while.

Not for me =)

This.

For me, I'm looking for a good fight. With items, Smash Balls, and stage hazards interrupting the flow of the match, it takes away the fun for me and becomes a frustration instead.

Smash King wrote:

MercuryHg34 wrote:

Mr. Kaneda wrote:

HypeConduit wrote:

Smash King wrote:

Yea, I never was a fan of items, Smash balls, hazards, etc. I usually prefer them off. I hope we can have stage hazards off, though a part of me feels that is not gonna happen for some reason.

Well I suppose the easy answer to that would be play the non-hazardous stages.

Of which there are not many of (at least compared to the hazardous ones) and playing on them over and over gets old after a while.

Not for me =)

This.

For me, I'm looking for a good fight. With items, Smash Balls, and stage hazards interrupting the flow of the match, it takes away the fun for me and becomes a frustration instead.  

It's like making an art college-level pencil sketch of a brilliant view, then following it up with coffee stains and crayon.

Loads of images today, showing off just how the Mario stage works.

Sakurai wrote:

Pic of the day. Here's some info on the Nintendo 3DS stage called Super Mario 3D Land! First, it advances by side-scrolling. Then you continue into the valley--it's in 3D Land, after all. The protruding stone blocks change the angles of the platforms. After that, back to side-scrolling. Now it gets you moving--you'll have to trot downhill here, and finally, you get back on rails to go farther into the stage. It takes roughly two minutes to complete a lap, and at the end you go into a giant pipe that takes you back to the beginning. …I know this sequence goes above and beyond a traditional Pic of the Day, so consider this a little something extra on the side from me.

This stage looks rather exciting actually, probably because of how colourful it is.

Sakurai's gift to Super Metroid was Rosalina laying down.



Well there's always Friday for the anniversaries of Warioware and Kirby Super Star.

AEM wrote:

Sakurai's gift to Super Metroid was Rosalina laying down.



Well there's always Friday for the anniversaries of Warioware and Kirby Super Star.

The facial pose looks very similar to something I saw in Japan once.

Anyway, if they're doing a Metroid thing it would probably be on the release of Metroid NES (August 6th).

How often in competitive does a shield get broken? This daily image says that basically if you overcharge Diddy's Neutral B it can be used as a seriously OP Smash attack.

The reason I ask about shields is that Sakurai recommended using it on Shield Break.

Ganonthegreat wrote:

How often in competitive does a shield get broken? This daily image says that basically if you overcharge Diddy's Neutral B it can be used as a seriously OP Smash attack.

The reason I ask about shields is that Sakurai recommended using it on Shield Break.

I don't think it ever happens/happens a lot. But I'm sure that if it did happen, someone wouldn't be a happy camper.

Shield breaking in competitive? If that happens, something is awfully wrong.

Ganonthegreat wrote:

How often in competitive does a shield get broken? This daily image says that basically if you overcharge Diddy's Neutral B it can be used as a seriously OP Smash attack.

The reason I ask about shields is that Sakurai recommended using it on Shield Break.

Well I doubt an opponent would willingly let you sit there while you ready up your gun to explode

Ganonthegreat wrote:

How often in competitive does a shield get broken?

Not very often. Only if your shield pressure is so perfect on an opponent, that instead of shield poking them, you break their shield. It doesn't happen very often.

sp wrote:

Ganonthegreat wrote:

How often in competitive does a shield get broken? This daily image says that basically if you overcharge Diddy's Neutral B it can be used as a seriously OP Smash attack.

The reason I ask about shields is that Sakurai recommended using it on Shield Break.

Well I doubt an opponent would willingly let you sit there while you ready up your gun to explode

This

The only time I can imagine such a time consuming attack working is for accurate timing for edge guarding. But regardless, it appears that it has a huge risk at the same time.

For those wondering who this is today, it's the Kid Icarus Goddess Phosphora.

The picture in my sig is a close-up for some reason, the Miiverse fansite has the full image which confirms that this is a trophy.

So I guess this confirms multiple backgrounds for trophies on the Wii U version, with Fat Little Mac also having a trophy, but with a yellow-green plaid background. But yeah, cool, I guess we're only getting 1-0 characters in March, unless for some reason we see 2 on one week

Dr. CanadianBacon wrote:

Unless for some reason we see 2 on one week

Saint Sakurai we pray 2 u