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PostSubject: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:01 pm

As you guys can see, CrusaDLC had been replaced by Suggestion Poll. I will be doing more modifications to this board as time passes. I will try and fix things up as soon as I can depending on my work schedule and such. 

Anyways, in case you didn't pay attention to the News Feed, here is the announcement made this past Sunday concerning DLC.

"Attention Crusade Fans;

As you may already know, the Crusade Main Development Team have been making changes to this project in every area possible. From visual appeals, team organizations, quality experience, and sharing our work through public events. We are taking every step possible to give the loyal fans the best experience through our fan game. One of those steps moving forward will be to revamp the Crusade DLC Poll into Suggestion Poll.

This content had been around since post-Crusade Demo 0.7. The original reason CrusaDLC was planned was because at one point the roster was completely finalized before fan input could be made (before the October 2011 birth of "Community Project"). Once fan input was accounted for somewhat in the roster, it became less meaningful.

What will happen to the CrusaDLC Poll?

The CrusaDLC Poll will be renamed the "Suggestion Poll" for the public. It will simply be a poll of characters fans want to see playable in Crusade that don't exist on the confirmed Main Roster. In other words, a popularity poll. The Suggestion Poll will not have limited winners like CrusaDLC Poll had with 18 or 25 candidates. The rules of the poll may also be less restricted, but that is for a discussion later in the future. Though you have to understand that just cause a number of candidates are winning, doesn't mean they are confirmed.

The positive view of Suggestion Poll is that it serves as the public's input on what they want to see. If the Crusade Dev Team ever decide to increase/replace a character on the roster, the Suggestion Poll can possibly be considered as a source of influence to a potential new character. So rather than being limited to a 80 Character Roster + 25 DLC, we can potentially have much more than that depending on the workforce and progress. Mind you also that our Main Roster will remain open for additions and/or removals. So finalized rosters will no longer exist.

Thank You For Reading."


Feel free to discuss.


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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:15 pm

Feed free to discuss. <---- typo
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:24 pm

Random Crusade Guy #366 wrote:
Feed free to discuss. <---- typo

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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:23 pm

Anyone have any suggestions on how the new Suggestion Poll should work?
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:48 pm

PH4 and I wanted to end the CrusaDLC as it was, but just keep everyone that was on that list on a new list.

 The character suggestion polls would work the same way, where they need to earn enough votes to be put onto the candidate list. Then they just sit there forever until we're ready to actually start DLC, or until they are voted off in the Candidate cut thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:14 pm

MercuryHg34 wrote:
PH4 and I wanted to end the CrusaDLC as it was, but just keep everyone that was on that list on a new list.

 The character suggestion polls would work the same way, where they need to earn enough votes to be put onto the candidate list. Then they just sit there forever until we're ready to actually start DLC, or until they are voted off in the Candidate cut thread.
Basically this.  A character has to get enough votes as a "DLC Suggestion" in it's own thread, same as we have done for adding new characters to the CrusaDLC poll, with the same rules of eligibility applying, and if they pass the vote they get added to the suggested DLC list, which is kept simply as a list sitting idle.  When we are nearing the final game version, that list opens up into a voting poll, which will be a popularity contest that the dev team takes into consideration for it's final DLC list.

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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:43 pm

Wait..."80 characters + 25 DLC" yes, I know there is a quote tab, but still... When I looked at the current roster, there is at least 100 characters excluding alternates. Will that mean the the roster will be removing characters?
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:11 pm

The roster is 86 characters when excluding alternates and counting Zelda, Shiek, Diddy, Dixie, and the trainer pokemon as separate counts.  Hand count the roster yourself if you wish.

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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:34 pm

Oh sorry I miscounted. Thank you for correcting me.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:43 am

Alright, let me be the first for this.

For my suggestion, I would like Leon from Star Fox:
http://starfox.wikia.com/wiki/Leon_Powalski


The reason why I chose him is that:
1. He's like the Falco of Star Wolf
2. Star Wolf could use another rep
3. He will have a rivalry with Falco, like Fox and Wolf
4. He's like the Wolf of Falco
5. Since Fox and Falco are in the same team in there games, it would make sense to have Wolf's buddy as playable to even it out.
6. MORE VILLANS!
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:55 am

1,3,and 4 are the same thing. BUT THIS! ^^^^^
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:09 pm

I don't think Star Fox needs another rep. It already has 4 characters on the roster. Adding more would pretty much over rep the series.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:15 pm

C_Mill24 wrote:
I don't think Star Fox needs another rep. It already has 4 characters on the roster. Adding more would pretty much over rep the series.
SmashKing did say in the chat that Star Fox can have one more rep.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:16 pm

Star Fox already had a poll to decide if a DLC character was needed and the consensus was no. By suggestions, we meant that you have to create a thread for that character with a poll, and go through that process like usual. If they win they get added to the candidate list and sit there until it's time to vote.

Speaking of which, can we use this thread or create a thread that serves as just the list of candidates?
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:06 pm

I'll be Satisfied if Kamek, and Anna get in Crusade.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:41 am

Yeti wrote:
I'll be Satisfied if Kamek, and Anna get in Crusade.
you're gonna be quite disappointed then
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:13 pm

MercuryHg34 wrote:
Why can't we just stop voting and leave the list as is?

Smash King wrote:

Cause it will be a very long time till we get to that point of the game. And if so, what else will there be left for the community to do since they can no longer contribute to the game?

Perfect Hell wrote:
The fact that it's a long way off is exactly my point.  Say for example Monster Hunter wins his suggestion poll and makes it to the list.  Because of the overwhelming number of past voters who are never coming back here to vote for newer candidates, regardless of his actual popularity the Monster Hunter will have absolutely no chance of winning, and that is completely unfair.  Whatever the voting group, it needs to have the same options presented to the whole group, and that is why a long term voting system will always be unfair.  A relatively short duration poll is the only fair way.  That, or implementing a system to cut out the votes of older users who have not been on in recent times., ut this will be tough to keep up with and determine a fair system, so it's much easier to just end the voting and let it start fresh much later on, and when it does at that point no new suggestions are allowed to enter the poll.

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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:46 pm


Thanks.

I don't think getting rid of the poll entirely is the best choice. It kinda eliminates one of our attractions of the forum. I've had numerous people join the forum just for the opportunity to vote. Plus, without the Suggestion Poll, as mentioned before, what would the community have left to actively discuss since they can't contribute input on Spriting or barely anything at this point?

Now, in order to keep what is one of our attractions on this forum while still having a fair poll is this.
We can start cutting down the fat on the Registered Voters section. For example, if a voter hasn't been logged in for a certain amount of time, their votes will be canceled entirely. If this is a suitable enough decision, all that is left is to discuss how long should this registered trial go before cancellation.

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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:55 pm

Alright, then i think we should do that

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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:00 pm


Very well. What do you guys think is the most acceptable Registration Trial possible before your votes are completely canceled? To me, if you don't log on for at least 6 months, they your votes are removed.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:03 pm

I was thinking the same actually lol. Maybe even 4 months, is that too short in forum time?

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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:23 pm


idk, 4 months is more of a seasonal thing. For example, Sliss is somewhat a seasonal member of the forum. He is here for a few months, then gone the next, then back again. Would it be fair to cut him off?
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:39 pm

True, alright im ok with 6 months

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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:01 am

*watches Zero's and Eggman's votes plummet
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:21 am

*watches Ralph's votes boost*
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:10 am

This list has the following forum members that will have their votes removed due to lack of activity in the community. Users who haven't logged on the forum since January 6th, 2013 or before will be removed from the voting section. Some users will be removed due to non-existing accounts. They can re-register if they return.

- Ayentex
- BluePsychic
- Judai G Rev
- kainblade
- Exordx
- hlddenmissiles
- KeybladeMaster
- tRUE
- youngadultkiller

I would like to thank Lightzx for helping out with this. Expect rankings of characters to drop this weekend.


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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:35 am

Oops I think i screwed up. KP Dooms did log on. It's because i was just copying and pasting names from the register voters list. I missed the brackets so i didn't find him.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:45 am

Which reminds me, i noticed i think one name error on the poll. So uh Awesomeguy1 huh? It's actually Awesomeguy91.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:19 pm

the following voters are no longer registered for Suggestion Poll due to inactivity, permabanned, or account deleted from Jan. 13th 2013 & prior.

- Ayentex
- BluePsychic
- Judai G Rev
- kainblade
- Exordx
- hlddenmissiles
- KeybladeMaster
- tRUE
- youngadultkiller
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion Poll Discussions   Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:03 pm

There is something I had noticed recently and I felt I should share that with everyone here for some input.

Currently, the Suggestion Poll only accepts 1 rep per series if the series itself already has a rep on the Main Roster. Then again, the public doesn't have access to the Main Roster no more, so how can they suggest a character when they don't even know who are on the Main Roster? Yea, there are some obvious series like Mario, Zelda, etc, but what about smaller series?

So yea, I was considering increasing the amount of reps a series can have on the Suggestion Poll. Perhaps 2 reps per series. What do you guys think?
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