Crash Bandicoot Discussion

Perfect Hell wrote:

Shield pushback actually cant be altered on a hitbox as a property, it's purely in the engine based on various variables, none of which i want to change on this move.  Shieldstun is the best option.

I think in general shield pushback is a bit low in this version though. In fact, it seems odd that so many moves have 0 pushback. Even in older versions there was some push back on just about everything. Is this somehow related to the fact that a lot of wavedashes also got shorter?

Not related. It'll increase though.

With the crates, another type could be the iron crate, that would have better damage and knockback, but low throw angle and can't be broken, it must despawn naturally. Bonus: Could break other crates when thrown

I feel we could make Down B feel less awkward without removing it by switching around some of his specials. Here are my ideas:

Neutral Special: Wumpa Bazooka (Former Down Special).
Side Special: Spin Attack (Former Neutral Special).
Down Special: Crates (Former Side Special).

I know some of this might seem a bit weird, but hear me out.

Wumpa Bazooka is Neutral Special to help it feel less awkward. Part of why it sucked (for me at least) is because whenever I would pull it out, I would be aiming down, because, I press Down B, and by the time I adjusted, I was already getting hit. By moving it to N-Spec, it's already aiming directly in front of him and ready to go. I also think this move should have much less start up and end time so it can be used like a normal projectile; as of right now it can BARELY edgegaurd. Maybe it could fire individual shots, but I feel like that would make the move less unique.

Spin Attack (I'm sure there's a proper name for it) is now Side Special. The only reason I'm making this change is to make room for the other two changes; it was perfectly fine as Neutral Special.

The Crates are now Down Special. This is because most "items" are Down Specials. Not a crucial reason, but I thought it made more sense. While I understand that the move isn't technically an "item" it behaves like one and I feel like it should be treated as one in this sense. I could also see Spin Attack as D-Spec and this staying at Side-Spec, but I felt like this change was more ideal.

WHOA!!!!!

Thanks for adding that comment here, that truly did contribute to the post in a very meaningful way

Well heres some good crash info
in 9.1.1 as of rn hes known as "3 Moves The Character" for a reason Box Toss, Spin , and Down Air is all u need to use as crash to get Wins and or a Extent of easy win streaks

AmareTSM wrote:

I feel we could make Down B feel less awkward without removing it by switching around some of his specials. Here are my ideas:

Neutral Special: Wumpa Bazooka (Former Down Special).
Side Special: Spin Attack (Former Neutral Special).
Down Special: Crates (Former Side Special).

I know some of this might seem a bit weird, but hear me out.

Wumpa Bazooka is Neutral Special to help it feel less awkward. Part of why it sucked (for me at least) is because whenever I would pull it out, I would be aiming down, because, I press Down B, and by the time I adjusted, I was already getting hit. By moving it to N-Spec, it's already aiming directly in front of him and ready to go. I also think this move should have much less start up and end time so it can be used like a normal projectile; as of right now it can BARELY edgegaurd. Maybe it could fire individual shots, but I feel like that would make the move less unique.

Spin Attack (I'm sure there's a proper name for it) is now Side Special. The only reason I'm making this change is to make room for the other two changes; it was perfectly fine as Neutral Special.

The Crates are now Down Special. This is because most "items" are Down Specials. Not a crucial reason, but I thought it made more sense. While I understand that the move isn't technically an "item" it behaves like one and I feel like it should be treated as one in this sense. I could also see Spin Attack as D-Spec and this staying at Side-Spec, but I felt like this change was more ideal.

I couldn't agree more and willing to bet that Crash players will feel much more comfortable.

why not just make the aiming of the bazooka faster and the exiting of it faster

Perfect Hell wrote:

6/12 for normal crate, 5/12 for TNT, 1/12 for Nitro

6/12 simplified is 1/2

Smash King wrote:

AmareTSM wrote:

I feel we could make Down B feel less awkward without removing it by switching around some of his specials. Here are my ideas:

Neutral Special: Wumpa Bazooka (Former Down Special).
Side Special: Spin Attack (Former Neutral Special).
Down Special: Crates (Former Side Special).

I know some of this might seem a bit weird, but hear me out.

Wumpa Bazooka is Neutral Special to help it feel less awkward. Part of why it sucked (for me at least) is because whenever I would pull it out, I would be aiming down, because, I press Down B, and by the time I adjusted, I was already getting hit. By moving it to N-Spec, it's already aiming directly in front of him and ready to go. I also think this move should have much less start up and end time so it can be used like a normal projectile; as of right now it can BARELY edgegaurd. Maybe it could fire individual shots, but I feel like that would make the move less unique.

Spin Attack (I'm sure there's a proper name for it) is now Side Special. The only reason I'm making this change is to make room for the other two changes; it was perfectly fine as Neutral Special.

The Crates are now Down Special. This is because most "items" are Down Specials. Not a crucial reason, but I thought it made more sense. While I understand that the move isn't technically an "item" it behaves like one and I feel like it should be treated as one in this sense. I could also see Spin Attack as D-Spec and this staying at Side-Spec, but I felt like this change was more ideal.

I couldn't agree more and willing to bet that Crash players will feel much more comfortable.

I too am very on board with this line of thinking

MonkeyDLenny wrote:

Smash King wrote:

AmareTSM wrote:

I feel we could make Down B feel less awkward without removing it by switching around some of his specials. Here are my ideas:

Neutral Special: Wumpa Bazooka (Former Down Special).
Side Special: Spin Attack (Former Neutral Special).
Down Special: Crates (Former Side Special).

I know some of this might seem a bit weird, but hear me out.

Wumpa Bazooka is Neutral Special to help it feel less awkward. Part of why it sucked (for me at least) is because whenever I would pull it out, I would be aiming down, because, I press Down B, and by the time I adjusted, I was already getting hit. By moving it to N-Spec, it's already aiming directly in front of him and ready to go. I also think this move should have much less start up and end time so it can be used like a normal projectile; as of right now it can BARELY edgegaurd. Maybe it could fire individual shots, but I feel like that would make the move less unique.

Spin Attack (I'm sure there's a proper name for it) is now Side Special. The only reason I'm making this change is to make room for the other two changes; it was perfectly fine as Neutral Special.

The Crates are now Down Special. This is because most "items" are Down Specials. Not a crucial reason, but I thought it made more sense. While I understand that the move isn't technically an "item" it behaves like one and I feel like it should be treated as one in this sense. I could also see Spin Attack as D-Spec and this staying at Side-Spec, but I felt like this change was more ideal.

I couldn't agree more and willing to bet that Crash players will feel much more comfortable.

I too am very on board with this line of thinking

Me too. Although I think Spin Attack is fine as a Neutral Special, and the Bazooka could be a Side Special or something. Of course, working a bit differently; just pressing the button would shoot one Wumpa Fruit to the front, and holding it down would allow the player to aim.

I REALLY love Crash, but I miss his old side smash in all honesty. It was a good throwback to Crash Bash and it fits him very well, so I really want to see it come back.

Seeing how Crash's Spin Attack is his go-to move, it should stay as his Neutral Special. Every character has their go-to move as their Neutral Special, so making Crash's Spin move anything else but his Neutral Special would be a disservice. His Up Special should definitely be the Arrow Crate, though. I think it makes sense because Crash jumps on those crates way more than he uses his jetpack.