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Does Chrom deserve a spot on the DLC poll? | Yes | | 33% | [ 3 ] | No | | 67% | [ 6 ] |
| Total Votes : 9 | | Poll closed |
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Shiruza Level 5 CPU
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| Subject: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 4:45 pm | |
| Now, I'm not so sure if Chrom is even in the official roster, since Fire Emblem: Awakening came out fairly recently, and obviously far after the release of 0.8b, so I don't even know whether or not this character is even viable to make DLC. To be honest I don't think that he should even be DLC in the first place; he's an obvious candidate for SSB4, and ever since the announcement of Pokemon X and Y I'd say he even has a better chance than Zoroark. But alas, with such limited roster knowledge I must resort to post-game DLC. Well, anyway, onto the moveset. Neutral Special: Aether (Awakening)- Spoiler:
Hits: 2 (trap) First hit damage: 5% knockback: none effect: stun, heal 5% Second hit damage: 5% knockback: standard Total Damage: 10%
Description: First, Chrom attacks with an upwards slash with a green hue. If he misses, he is fully vulnerable to attacks for thirty frames, similar to how failing with a typical counter attack would act. If he succeeds in attacking, he heals 5% of his health and attacks again with a fox illusion-like advancing slash. Good for healing, though it has low kill potential. Could be seen as Chrom's counterpart of the "counter" Dspec seen on most Fire Emblem characters in the Smash franchise. In Awakening, Aether is much different than in Radiant Dawn/Path of Radiance; instead of following up your slash with a spinning attack, you would instead use Luna to dash forward with a very quick slash. Side Special: Dual Strike- Spoiler:
Hits: 2 (alternate second hit) First hit damage: 3% knockback: low Second hit "A" damage: 5% knockback: good Second hit "B" damage: 4% knockback: none effect: grounded Second hit "C" damage: 7% knockback: great Total Damage: 8%(A) 7%(B) 10%(C)
Description: First, Chrom slashes horizontally while moving forward slightly. Then, he can follow it up with one of three attacks: (A): Executed with Fspec/Nspec directly after the first attack. Chrom jabs his blade forward very quickly. Similar to Shield Breaker and the Mr.Saturn item, it is very punishing against shields, though to a lesser extent. (B): Executed with Dspec directly after the first attack. Chrom jabs his sword into the ground, grounding his opponent. When used on a hanging or airborne opponent, it spikes them downwards. Very effective for edgeguarding. (C): Executed with Uspec directly after the first attack. Chrom shorthops upwards with his sword brandished, then crashes its blade down on his opponent. There is a slight delay while he is jumping, so a quick player may shield to avoid damage. In Fire Emblem: Awakening, Dual Strike functions as an assist to an aiding ally, allowing them to attack twice after Chrom makes his initial attack. Chrom doesn't have any allies in this game, so instead he attacks on his own. Secondary Attack "C", however, uses a similar animation to his assist attack in Awakening. Down Special: Rightful King- Spoiler:
Hits: None Effects: Great knockback buff (specials only)
Chrom focuses for five whole seconds, eyes closed and holding his blade vertically to his chest. If he is uninterrupted during this, he gains blue afterimages and a great knockback buff to his offensive special attacks for one minute. Works very similar to Lucas' Offense Up. Charge cannot be stored, and effects remain even after contact with an enemy attack. In Fire Emblem: Awakening, "Rightful King" increases the trigger rate of special skills executed by the user, hence in Crusade it should only improve the knockback of Chrom's specials. Up Special: Ignis- Spoiler:
Hits: five (rapid) First hit damage: 1% knockback: low element: fire Second hit damage: 2% knockback: very low element: fire Third hit damage: 2% knockback: very low element: fire Fourth hit damage: 5% knockback: very low element: fire Fifth hit damage: 5% knockback: very good element: fire Total Damage: 15%
Description: Chrom dashes forward slightly, then rises upwards with his blade, enshrouded by flaming sakura petals. This works very similar to Roy's Uspec in Melee, as it traps opponents for multiple elemental hits in a rising slash. If it hits, the final blow exhales an explosion of petals, and the enemy suffers great knockback. Very fast, and very reliable for kills. This attack is the signature move of the Player Avatar in Fire Emblem: Awakening. I figured I'd "Sakurai" around a bit and give him a move that he wouldn't normally be able to learn in order to have better representation of the game from which he originates. In Awakening, when Ignis is used by the Player Avatar in his or her default class (the Tactician), the player dashes towards the enemy and follows it up with a rising slash covered in flaming sakura petals, similar to how it would work in Chrom's moveset. Final Smash: Exalted Falchion- Spoiler:
Hits: 3 First hit damage: 15% knockback: none effect: stun element: electricity Second hit damage: 15% knockback: none effect: stun element: electricity Third hit damage: 20% knockback: outstanding element: electricity Total Damage: 50%
Description: First, Chrom uses a Master Seal to upgrade into the Great Lord class. Second, he uses the Fire Emblem to ascend his blade Falchion to create Exalted Falchion, a more powerful version of Falchion with a rainbow glow in its edge. Finally, Chrom slashes forwards, similar to Marth's Critical Hit. Chrom passes through the opponent, however, than follows up with a mirrored version of the same attack. To finish his opponent off, he slashes forwards one more time, with the image of the goddess Naga in the background. Spiraling energy covers Chrom's blade, and the final hit sends any enemies he comes in contact with flying offstage.
Last edited by Shiruza on Fri May 10, 2013 12:18 pm; edited 2 times in total |
| | | C_Mill24 Level 9 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 4:52 pm | |
| Why are you comparing Fire Emblem with Pokemon? |
| | | Shiruza Level 5 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 5:09 pm | |
| - C_Mill24 wrote:
- Why are you comparing Fire Emblem with Pokemon?
Zoroark had a pretty good chance of getting in; he was one of the first two 5th gen Pokemon released to the public, the other being Zorua, and was pretty much confirmed. He was the most likely candidate for the next smash, until X and Y was announced, making his generation obsolete and significantly ruining his chances of getting in. By comparing Chrom's chances of getting in when compared to Zorua, I was trying to show just how likely he was of getting in. On a side note, I see from your sig that you do movesets. Could you give any feedback for me? |
| | | C_Mill24 Level 9 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 5:17 pm | |
| I'm not very familiar with Fire emblem series that much, so I can't really comment on that matter. But I can comment on the fact that Zoroark is currently on the main roster if I'm not mistaken.
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| | | Shiruza Level 5 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 5:22 pm | |
| - C_Mill24 wrote:
- I'm not very familiar with Fire emblem series that much, so I can't really comment on that matter.
That's fine. - Quote :
- But I can comment on the fact that Zoroark is currently on the main roster if I'm not mistaken.
Which is exactly my point. Zoroark is confirmed in SSBC (thankfully), but his chances for SSB4 have recently plummeted. So Chrom should really be considered for SSBC as well, since his chances are even better than Zoroark's now, though this is really only a suggestion. |
| | | VultureDuck Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 5:26 pm | |
| Alvis is a Fire Emblem candidate, and since their are one candidate per franchise it's not going to happen. |
| | | C_Mill24 Level 9 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 5:29 pm | |
| - Shiruza wrote:
- C_Mill24 wrote:
- I'm not very familiar with Fire emblem series that much, so I can't really comment on that matter.
That's fine. - Quote :
- But I can comment on the fact that Zoroark is currently on the main roster if I'm not mistaken.
Which is exactly my point. Zoroark is confirmed in SSBC (thankfully), but his chances for SSB4 have recently plummeted. So Chrom should really be considered for SSBC as well, since his chances are even better than Zoroark's now, though this is really only a suggestion. You're still missing the point that Fire Emblem and Pokemon are two completely different series that you can't really compare to each other. |
| | | Shiruza Level 5 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 5:58 pm | |
| - Quote :
- You're still missing the point that Fire Emblem and Pokemon are two completely different series that you can't really compare to each other.
I was really trying to compare the Smash roster in general and not really their respective franchises, but that doesn't really matter anymore since, well, this: - Quote :
- Alvis is a Fire Emblem candidate, and since their are one candidate per franchise it's not going to happen.
Which is a shame, because I honestly think that he would make an excellent inclusion. Oh, well. Can't do much about that. |
| | | Perfect Hell
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 6:09 pm | |
| - Quote :
- First, Chrom attacks with an upwards slash with a green hue. If he misses, he is fully vulnerable to attacks for half of a frame, similar to how failing with a typical counter attack would act.
Not sure you understand how frames work...Frames are 1/60th of a second so half a frame would definitely not leave you vulnerable to attacks >.< As was already stated, FE has a candidate on the poll already. However it could be possible with enough support to replace that candidate, though if im not mistaken you would have to do it in the Candidate Cut Poll (though I would wait for Smash King's confirmation before you do that). |
| | | Shiruza Level 5 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 6:15 pm | |
| - Perfecthell4 wrote:
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- Quote :
- First, Chrom attacks with an upwards slash with a green hue. If he misses, he is fully vulnerable to attacks for half of a frame, similar to how failing with a typical counter attack would act.
Not sure you understand how frames work...Frames are 1/60th of a second so half a frame would definitely not leave you vulnerable to attacks >.< Heh, whoops. Forgot that for a second. I meant a split second... I'm going to change that now. - Quote :
- As was already stated, FE has a candidate on the poll already. However it could be possible with enough support to replace that candidate, though if im not mistaken you would have to do it in the Candidate Cut Poll (though I would wait for Smash King's confirmation before you do that).
Thank you very much . I almost lost hope for a second! So I just wait for him to say either "Yes" or "No", and then try to gather enough support to replace Alvis with Chrom, right? |
| | | Smash King Smash King
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 6:17 pm | |
| [quote="Perfecthell4"] - Quote :
- As was already stated, FE has a candidate on the poll already. However it could be possible with enough support to replace that candidate, though if im not mistaken you would have to do it in the Candidate Cut Poll (though I would wait for Smash King's confirmation before you do that).
That is correct. Its better off discussing this on the Candidate Cut Poll and see if there is any support to replace Alvis for Crom |
| | | Shiruza Level 5 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 6:18 pm | |
| - Smash King wrote:
That is correct. Its better off discussing this on the Candidate Cut Poll and see if there is any support to replace Alvis for Crom Not to bother, but how would one go about doing such a thing? Just walking in a posting a poll? |
| | | Smash King Smash King
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 6:21 pm | |
| You post a comment on the Candidate Cut Poll suggesting the replacement. And once the time comes, we will hold a poll for it (reason for the possible delay is cause we currently have several characters already on the poll that need to be cut as well as other suggestions). |
| | | Yeti Level 6 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Thu May 09, 2013 9:30 pm | |
| I support It, the Moveset Needs Work though, Chrom can't have Ignus, He could have Aegis, or Luna though. |
| | | MercuryHg34
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Fri May 10, 2013 3:45 am | |
| Chrom should replace Alvis, there's no question. However, this isn't the place to decide that, as PH4 and SK said. I fully support Chrom, however. Honestly he should be on the main roster, but that's so far-fetched and we were lucky just to replace Cless and Chocobo with WoL and Heihachi on the main roster. |
| | | Dry
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Fri May 10, 2013 6:16 am | |
| I prefer Alvis. Let us duel, wretch. |
| | | Shiruza Level 5 CPU
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Fri May 10, 2013 12:17 pm | |
| - Yeti wrote:
- I support It, the Moveset Needs Work though, Chrom can't have Ignus, He could have Aegis, or Luna though.
Luna was already a part of the moveset via Aether, so I thought that including it would be strange. And since Aegis is a defensive tactic, it probably wouldn't work too well Like I meantioned, I just thought I'd "Sakurai" the moveset, meaning that I gave my character a move that normally he/she can't normally learn in the series canon for the sake of better representing the franchise. The character avatar plays a major part in Awakening, and without giving anything away is pretty makes the difference between life and death in the game. By including Ignis, I pay tribute to the Avatar's part in the story. Besides, "Sakurai"-ing happens all the time, even in the main series franchise- Just look at Ness, or Lucas. Though, thank you for your feedback, and if you've any other suggestions that could suit Chrom better as an Uspec, then I'll gladly look into it. |
| | | Smash King Smash King
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| Subject: Re: Chrom for DLC! Fri May 10, 2013 3:28 pm | |
| Alright, since this discussion has now shifted over to the Candidate Cut Poll, I will be locking this thread.
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