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GothicSlenderman wrote:
reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
VultureDuck wrote:
Oh look new characters
Preacher: Weird, but then again I like unexpected characters.
Jumpman: Ummm...two Marios?
Lightning: Heard she is unlikeable, but Crusade has Duck Hunt Dog so whatever.
Power Glove:...wat?
Peter Griffon:......WAT??

Actually the roster is getting a remake. When the new one is finished I replace the old with the new. I promise it won't disappoint Wink
why dont you start making the game first

Well I did have the game started but I have to start over because my computer had to be rebooted and now I don't even have game maker. Anyone willing to help?
nobody is willing to help

you don't have anything of value to present to let people know you are serious about this

Then so be it. I shall try to make the sprites for the characters. I have to warn you though. I'm not the best spriter out there.

Oh this will be exciting *grabs a bowl of popcorn and starts munching on it*
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VultureDuck wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
VultureDuck wrote:
Oh look new characters
Preacher: Weird, but then again I like unexpected characters.
Jumpman: Ummm...two Marios?
Lightning: Heard she is unlikeable, but Crusade has Duck Hunt Dog so whatever.
Power Glove:...wat?
Peter Griffon:......WAT??

Actually the roster is getting a remake. When the new one is finished I replace the old with the new. I promise it won't disappoint Wink
why dont you start making the game first

Well I did have the game started but I have to start over because my computer had to be rebooted and now I don't even have game maker. Anyone willing to help?
nobody is willing to help

you don't have anything of value to present to let people know you are serious about this

Then so be it. I shall try to make the sprites for the characters. I have to warn you though. I'm not the best spriter out there.

Oh this will be exciting *grabs a bowl of popcorn and starts munching on it*

I added a slenderman sprite I made a few weeks ago.
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GothicSlenderman wrote:
reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
VultureDuck wrote:
Oh look new characters
Preacher: Weird, but then again I like unexpected characters.
Jumpman: Ummm...two Marios?
Lightning: Heard she is unlikeable, but Crusade has Duck Hunt Dog so whatever.
Power Glove:...wat?
Peter Griffon:......WAT??

Actually the roster is getting a remake. When the new one is finished I replace the old with the new. I promise it won't disappoint Wink
why dont you start making the game first

Well I did have the game started but I have to start over because my computer had to be rebooted and now I don't even have game maker. Anyone willing to help?
nobody is willing to help

you don't have anything of value to present to let people know you are serious about this

Then so be it. I shall try to make the sprites for the characters. I have to warn you though. I'm not the best spriter out there.
or you could always learn how to code and make an engine

BETTER YET: just give up this project, it will get nowhere, the last thing the world needs is another smash fangame, go waste your so-called creative energy on something original
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reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
VultureDuck wrote:
Oh look new characters
Preacher: Weird, but then again I like unexpected characters.
Jumpman: Ummm...two Marios?
Lightning: Heard she is unlikeable, but Crusade has Duck Hunt Dog so whatever.
Power Glove:...wat?
Peter Griffon:......WAT??

Actually the roster is getting a remake. When the new one is finished I replace the old with the new. I promise it won't disappoint Wink
why dont you start making the game first

Well I did have the game started but I have to start over because my computer had to be rebooted and now I don't even have game maker. Anyone willing to help?
nobody is willing to help

you don't have anything of value to present to let people know you are serious about this

Then so be it. I shall try to make the sprites for the characters. I have to warn you though. I'm not the best spriter out there.
or you could always learn how to code and make an engine

BETTER YET: just give up this project, it will get nowhere, the last thing the world needs is another smash fangame, go waste your so-called creative energy on something original

I don't need this, I'm gonna be as polite as possible. Please shut up and if all you're going to do is try to put me down then I suggest you just ignore Re:Incarnation. Like they say if you've got nothing nice to say then don't say anyhing at all.
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reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
VultureDuck wrote:
Oh look new characters
Preacher: Weird, but then again I like unexpected characters.
Jumpman: Ummm...two Marios?
Lightning: Heard she is unlikeable, but Crusade has Duck Hunt Dog so whatever.
Power Glove:...wat?
Peter Griffon:......WAT??

Actually the roster is getting a remake. When the new one is finished I replace the old with the new. I promise it won't disappoint Wink
why dont you start making the game first

Well I did have the game started but I have to start over because my computer had to be rebooted and now I don't even have game maker. Anyone willing to help?
nobody is willing to help

you don't have anything of value to present to let people know you are serious about this

Then so be it. I shall try to make the sprites for the characters. I have to warn you though. I'm not the best spriter out there.
or you could always learn how to code and make an engine

BETTER YET: just give up this project, it will get nowhere, the last thing the world needs is another smash fangame, go waste your so-called creative energy on something original
Sheesh don't go that hard at him, he just want to make a game. I do have to agree with you though, I feel like Ghothic was very unprepared when doing this.
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VultureDuck wrote:
reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
reynold wrote:
GothicSlenderman wrote:
VultureDuck wrote:
Oh look new characters
Preacher: Weird, but then again I like unexpected characters.
Jumpman: Ummm...two Marios?
Lightning: Heard she is unlikeable, but Crusade has Duck Hunt Dog so whatever.
Power Glove:...wat?
Peter Griffon:......WAT??

Actually the roster is getting a remake. When the new one is finished I replace the old with the new. I promise it won't disappoint Wink
why dont you start making the game first

Well I did have the game started but I have to start over because my computer had to be rebooted and now I don't even have game maker. Anyone willing to help?
nobody is willing to help

you don't have anything of value to present to let people know you are serious about this

Then so be it. I shall try to make the sprites for the characters. I have to warn you though. I'm not the best spriter out there.
or you could always learn how to code and make an engine

BETTER YET: just give up this project, it will get nowhere, the last thing the world needs is another smash fangame, go waste your so-called creative energy on something original
Sheesh don't go that hard at him, he just want to make a game. I do have to agree with you though, I feel like Ghothic was very unprepared when doing this.

I was prepared at first but my computer had to be rebooted and I don't even have game maker. So I have no choice but to start over...
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the first mistake you made was posting this on the forum of another smash fangame

the second was posting before you had any progress or proof whatsoever of your ability

this isn't being harsh, this is being truthful
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Fukube Satoshi wrote:
the first mistake you made was posting this on the forum of another smash fangame

the second was posting before you had any progress or proof whatsoever of your ability

this isn't being harsh, this is being truthful

Well how else was I supposed to spreed the word. Crusade is very popular and I figured if some poeple saw this here they might also consider checking it out. Crusade is an amazing game I might never make Re:Incarnation as good as Crusade. All I want to do is make a smash fan game. Is that too much to ask? I need something to keep me going after the death of a close friend of mine and some of my family members. That's why I started Crusade so I wouldn't waste my life moping around and end up killing myself. Re:Incarnation is my escape from sadness.
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crusade is not "very popular", and the forum especially is not

we have maybe 40 active users

had you made this thread on mcleodgaming's forum it would have been locked immediately, same with smashboards

making a smash game on your own with little to no coding experience and no spriting ability is indeed too much to ask of yourself. start with simple games and then work your way up.

if you continue discussing your game idea on this forum you won't get anything better than the kinds of posts that you've already been seeing. while it's true crusade at one point was that "hahaha show some proof" game a very long time ago, that doesn't mean every game can make it out of that status.

i would suggest getting some books on coding or looking up tutorials on the web if you'd like to start coding. java is probably a better language to start learning because GML isn't particularly intuitive (then again, there aren't really any coding languages which are entirely intuitive from the start) and there are a ton of free java programs and tutorials to help you along the way.
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Here's the truth. I have no experience in coding or spriting. I just wanted to have something I can be proud that others can enjoy. My grandfather, close friend, step dad, and only real friend in this new state washington being ym dog Demyx died of old age. My really father left me after a few days I was born. The only thing I knew about him is that he threatened to kill my family and take me. My house which I lived in for 7 years burned down. I can't be social anymore because my new school kicked me out because of rumours that I was hissing at people. All I want in life is something that most people would love that I made. That's the truth of Re:Incarnation. I only wanted to make it so I wouldnt be sad any more. 17 years of suffering and still going.
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none of that changes the fact that you have to learn how to code before you can make a game
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Fukube Satoshi wrote:
none of that changes the fact that you have to learn how to code before you can make a game

I guess
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listen, i'm going to be as rational as possible here:

i understand there's some inspiration in the inner ecstasy of making a dream super smash bros roster and seeing slenderman's name next to mario and sonic and what have you, but there are a few things i want you to consider.

everyone and their grandmother has "tried" to make a super smash bros fan clone before.

guess what? we all got nowhere, only three of them (crusade, flash, land) succeeded at achieving an audience and a playable release.

i'm just telling you the truth now before you crash and burn. i don't want to see you upset when you finally get around to starting SOMETHING related to the project and realizing how difficult it is to attempt an effort like this. crusade and flash 2 are currently on their final demo releases and guess how long it took them both? half a decade, with a hardworking dev team each and all.

you know the work you'll have to put into making something like this?
going from your plans in the OP:

  • creating a fully functional smash engine
    fighting games, even party fighters like smash, are incredibly complex coding-wise and you'll have to have some impressive, professional-level coding skills to pull it off. the person who made the original crusade engine is a university graduate in computer science, and our current head coder is pretty much superman
  • spriting the hundred-or-so characters you have on your incredibly unrealistic roster list
    smash characters have dozens of individual movements and attacks. with one or more animations for each, resulting in hundreds (maybe thousands) of frames per character, i shouldn't have to explain to you how ambitious this would be.
  • spriting the hundred-or-so stages you have on your incredibly unrealistic roster list
    stages are hard
  • making menu graphics and HUDs
    blah blah blah
  • coding all of the above
    unless you find someone with university-level coding skills interested in this to the point of sacrificing their social life to work on it, or you suddenly become a 1337 programmer while you still have interest in this project, you are doomed.
  • maintaining a balanced experience; something that is fair to both casual and competitive players
    good luck finding a balancing team

that's not even counting all of the other undertakings you will have to endure to make this a worthwhile smash experience: items, game modes, easter eggs, music, jesus christ you're aiming for a monolith here. by all means, if you want to continue with this project i'm not stopping you. i just want you to consider what you're doing before you wind up in a state of crippling disappointment.

so if you want to make a game, that's great! however, i suggest developing an original idea which you can bring to life using the resources you have access to. you might even make a cult classic who knows. you'll have a lot more fun that way! (of the various ssf2 and crusade developers i have spoken with, it doesn't seem like devoting a significant chunk of their free time to a fan game has done wonders for their mental health)

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GothicSlenderman wrote:
I can't be social anymore because my new school kicked me out because of rumours that I was hissing at people.
what
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woah dang bro.

you really thought it was necessary to waste all that time making such a good post

well anyway good post bro
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logan is still the holy spirit
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I remember when I wanted to make a smash fangame. I even have a few rosters backed up in places.

Pretty hilarious now that I look back at it.
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