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PostSubject: Potential SSB Beta Info   Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:40 pm



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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:44 pm

>Wolf
Trying to resist making a "I can't let you do that, Sakurai" joke
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:45 pm

Oh wow, I knew about Bowser, Dedede, & Mewtwo. But Wolf originally being planned is quite a surprise.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:45 pm

Interesting how we've found information involving De3, Bowser, Mewtwo, and the other three that were probably false, yet nothing has ever been said abour Wolf being in...interesting...
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:00 pm

Wolf? I always fiqured that Falco would get in before he did. Surprised by this.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:25 pm

Here's apparently where the post came from.
It wasn't originally SmashBoards, but NeoGAF. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36929662&postcount=5080
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:22 pm

I hope Mewtwo will came back in SSB4 . For SSB ( N64 ) why they put King Dedede and not Ganondorf that strange .
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:28 pm

Keven wrote:
I hope Mewtwo will came back in SSB4 . For SSB ( N64 ) why they put King Dedede and not Ganondorf that strange .
Sakurai bias
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:22 pm

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Keven wrote:
I hope Mewtwo will came back in SSB4 . For SSB ( N64 ) why they put King Dedede and not Ganondorf that strange .
Sakurai bias
Sakurai isn't biased. That's why Dedede wasn't in Melee, and instead we got 6 clones.

The bigger question would be...why WOLF would have been in before Ganon or Zelda...
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:27 pm

Maybe Starfox 64 was bigger/more popular than OoT64 during development.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:32 pm

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Maybe Starfox 64 was bigger/more popular than OoT64 during development.
You have a point. The source even says that StarFox 64 was brand new during Smash's development.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:43 pm

Maybe Sakurai did not know how add it : Ganon ( Zelda I & Zelda II ) or Gannondorf ( Ocarina Of Time ) beacause there apperance are really not the same look Ganon ( NES ) http://zeldamasterfull.webs.com/Zelda%20NES-%20Ganon.jpg Ganon ( N64 ) : http://gemakei.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ganondorf_oot3d.png And Gannon ( Final Form N64 ) : http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/images/a/a6/LOZ_OoT_3D_Ganon.png . They really dont look the same .
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:27 pm

They didn't add Zelda most likely because, before OOT's release, I wouldn't expect many people to actually want to play as a character who was kidnapped/incapacitated for almost the entire duration of every game she was in, and whose fighting ability was only shown in a CD-i game. At least with OOT, we saw that she could use magic and disguise herself as part of an ancient native race of badass ninja people, ergo something to draw a recognizable moveset from.

As for Ganon, I have no idea.

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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:40 pm

OoT was released before SSB. So Sheik could work (even if Zelda couldn't) and so could've Ganondorf.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Tue May 15, 2012 9:50 pm

More new info, apparently from a 2002 Famitsu: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37915502&postcount=7506
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Tue May 15, 2012 11:52 pm

Wow, so we wouldve gotten 2nd Gen Trainer? Glad that didn't happen Very Happy

And yea, I figured that he usually keeps balance of his choices of characters by spliting them into 2 categories
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:15 pm

After looking through Brawl's victory music files, I have discovered that Dr. Mario is just as likely as Mewtwo and Roy is to return.

Spoiler:
 
There is one missing one that interests me; the one inbetween R.O.B. and Jigglypuff.
This goes along with another theory of mine that there was to be another series represented with a character that had not been.
Brawl's music files group songs together by alphabetical order, as thus:
Spoiler:
 

Notice that O, which is inbetween Animal Crossing, and Kid Icarus, is missing from the list.
This leads me to believe that the missing fanfare for the character inbetween R.O.B. and Jigglypuff in the data belonged to a character that Sakurai could not include for some reason.

Prime suspect is Starfy, given that Starly's (Stapy as she was known in Brawl) trophy appears in the Fighter Related category, despite Starfy being an Assist Trophy.
Which in turn, could possibly explain why Starfy is a useless Assist. To "get back" at TOSE for denying him as a character.


Many Geno fanboys would jump on and say it was Geno, as he's owned by Square-Enix, but at the same time, he's a Mario character, so why would there be a seperate section missing for him? Also, the cut Beware the Forest's Mushroom song from SMRPG was filed under "A" for Mario.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:20 am

This is some very interesting information. If Starfy is true, I wonder if he still has a chance now since the series has been quiet for some time now
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:29 am

Well, it had a game after Brawl that made the series no longer Japan only.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:45 pm

More interesting stuff for Brawl:
http://tcrf.net/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl
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PostSubject: Re: Potential SSB Beta Info   Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:57 pm

Octavio wrote:
More interesting stuff for Brawl:
http://tcrf.net/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl

I love TCRF! I wrote pretty much over half of Melee's Debug Menu page and added all but one of the images on that article. I did some other things on Melee's main page too, like the unused sounds (which I actually need to rip).

Anyways...Brawl...
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