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Pikavy
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PostSubject: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:41 am

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I am a professional player and I decided to make a tier list of SSBC 0.9.1.1.
Had done a lot of playing with offline CPUs and online human players.

Also like to give a special mention to Gomamon's reporting, including the weight list.
http://projectcrusade.forumotion.com/t5159-0-9-1-weight-list-and-movement-options-list


Here is the SSBC 0.9.1.1 Tier List as of February 2018.



- S: Very high viability
- A: High viability
- B: Good viability
- C: Mediocre viability
- D: Low viability
- E and F: Very low viability

To answer some older questions, the best considered alternative characters are factored
as the one character, due to similar moves/weights/playstyles (Lucario, Marth, and others).

Captain Falcon is vulnerable to combos and juggling due to his tall size, heavy weight, and high falling speed. Most of his moves are either difficult to land or slow enough to get himself punished. This leaves to inconsistent matches into his favor among the higher tier characters.

Also, I like to note if you use insults, push dogma, or slander, you're telling me your minds are closed and there is no use in debating.


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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:23 am

Interesting to me that Goku and Falcon are so low.  Care to fill me in on your reasoning?  Just curious.

EDIT: Also, where do moveset alts fit into this? Like Marth (centered) should be way lower than Marth (Tipper)

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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:01 pm

XD no lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:05 pm

Ha, lol no, professional player. oh u have much to learn son. this tier list isnt even 95% accurrate
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:30 am

A tier list? Already?
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:01 pm

TaXMaN wrote:
A tier list? Already?
an inaccurate one
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:29 pm

Marth being is S is valid. Toad in B seems suitable for my main in 9.x series anyways. Knuckles 9.1 his move changes brings him down lower for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:10 pm

The new patch hasn't even been out for a week, and the game itself hasn't even been out for a month. Please don't make tier lists this early in the meta.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:48 am

Guys how about instead of digging so much we discuss the list? Sure it's early, but without discussion nothing good is gonna pop out of nowhere.

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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:35 pm

Alexander wrote:
Guys how about instead of digging so much we discuss the list?  Sure it's early, but without discussion nothing good is gonna pop out of nowhere.
Well, he's not wrong at all, and I'm fine with it; though, honestly, I'd wait for at least a month or two since the last update to make a tier list for any game in general, but that's my opinion anyways.

As for this tier list, I can only see one reason why Chun-Li, and Evil/Normal Ryu would be so low, and that's little to no representation and/or appearances in tournaments. However, I can see them being C Tier at best due to both of them being really great at their ground combo game without the need of jumping, just like in their games. G&W being S Tier is completely out of the blue, IMO, unless I'm missing something. Pac-Man makes a bit more sense, but I barely used him, so I don't know. Falcon is surprisingly low, from the way I'm seeing it, honestly; he should be at least in B Tier, due to how big of a threat he is against much of the cast. Rayman being 2nd best character is very questionable, but Marth makes sense, due to how clunky his animations are. Goku can actually do some stuff, so I'd see him being at least in B Tier.

Correct me if I'm wrong on any of these, since I didn't put that much time into the game, and at least give me a really good reason behind each character's placement when you get the chance, I'd like to listen to your opinion about it; overall, this game is great, nonetheless, regardless of balancing in general.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:45 pm

no, no listen here everyone posting here, Pika+ has no clue what in the world he's doing and knows little to nothing about competitive crusade. if anything this is a Troll Tier list to callout or trigger the Backroom/people who made the past tier lists. i can assure you all that a Official 9.1.1 tier list will be released soon enough and will be as accurate as it can be.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:12 am

Captain Berzerk wrote:
no, no listen here everyone posting here, Pika+ has no clue what in the world he's doing and knows little to nothing about competitive crusade. if anything this is a Troll Tier list to callout or trigger the Backroom/people who made the past tier lists. i can assure you all that a Official 9.1.1 tier list will be released soon enough and will be as accurate as it can be.

well that's kinda rude

how do we not know that they're like 14 and trying to help out
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:58 pm

this guy is on the crusade Discord and he always saying his favorite characters are the best in the game. so if this tier list is coming from him then its a troll/horrible researched tier list.
(btw, all of his mains are in S tier in this tier list^) so im just trying to let everyone know not to trust this tier list as an Actual Complete and Researched tier list with As Close as possible character Placings.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:27 am

Captain Berzerk wrote:
this guy is on the crusade Discord and he always saying his favorite characters are the best in the game. so if this tier list is coming from him then its a troll/horrible researched tier list.
(btw, all of his mains are in S tier in this tier list^) so im just trying to let everyone know not to trust this tier list as an Actual Complete and Researched tier list with As Close as possible character Placings.

Okay, I didn't have any context, so now it's a little less rude.
Thank you for clearing it up.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:34 am

When I make back room n more people play the game, then we can discuss the list, rawr
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:24 am

Dracobat10 wrote:
When I make back room n more people play the game, then we can discuss the list, rawr

we havent even had tournaments beyond the release one iirc

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look without "BUT X CHARACTER NEEDS TO BE IN FIRST" goggles.

Athorment wrote:
Those "More deserving ones" will get votes regardless of circumstances, so i suggest supporting who you want in regardless of popularity

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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:51 am

Indeed. I'd look to more folk playing competitively as it isn't even ladder worthy as of current with the amount of activity. 11 folk won't do.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros. Crusade 0.9.1.1 Tier List - February 2018   Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:25 am

True. we need more players that are willing to stick around to improve the competitive crusade scene. and less memer's Kappa
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