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Cast Improvements!

Despite the fact that the latest dev blogs have been thematic and focused on specific subjects such as an individual character, the game actually undergoes many small but significant changes and tweaks all across the board.

Graphics improve, character attributes are modified and attacks are edited in ways that don’t deserve one sole dev blog on their own.  Today, we're going to highlight some of the characters who have changed in smaller ways to feel significantly different.

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For Lucas, his Down Special was deemed as neither that fun, nor that adequate representation-wise and was therefore scrapped entirely. Fret not however, as the Down B input now corresponds to the fan favorite PK Paralyse!  It has been made faster at the cost of range, rendering it a more reliable and accessible option.

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On the other hand, the new Side Special is PK Freeze. It is a projectile that was heavily inspired by the talented developers of Project M and is fundamentally similar to Ness’s PK Fire, but with a few key differences.  PK Freeze will always travel horizontally and cannot be shot diagonally in the air.  It is also faster and easier to use in the neutral game.  However, PK Freeze knocks opponents back a small amount on hit rather than trapping them in a pillar.  Use this attack to control the pace of a long ranged battle, aiding your approach or forcing one!

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Ness’s Down Special was also significantly improved as it can now be jump-cancelled, allowing for more options and greater flexibility overall.  It even keeps it's upward hitbox, outward release windboxes, and of course projectile absorption!

In regards to their Up Specials, both have had the speed and control of their projectiles differentiated as per the console versions.  Lucas’s is slower but boasts more control, allowing for tighter turns.  The timing of angles to perform it have also been fully adjusted to match what console players will be most familiar with.

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What is a witch without her potions? Ashley uses these malevolent implements in her Down Tilt. However, for extra believability, these will now actually fall if used over edges from higher ground! Use potions to shower unsuspecting victims that desperately try to grab onto the ledge!

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But that's not all!  When the bottle is tossed on solid ground it shatters, the pieces and contents remaining for a short period of time with an active hitbox!  Combine this with her clouds from up smash and dominate the stage!

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We've also tweaked Ashley's down air. Previously a lackluster display of offensive magic, it now summons a lightning spark at a set distance below the wand. Said spark sends targets towards the wand, greatly increasing the latter’s power!

We've also fine-tuned Ashley in other ways, such as less hits and duration for her overpowering hair twirling attacks.  She's also been made floatier with an improved air combo game, and her recovery has had its distance significantly reduced.

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Pichu has received some changes as well.  Pichu's new special moves were meant to complement self-damage, with Side Special growing in power as Pichu accumulated damage and Down Special being able to tank any hit.  However, they needed improvement in order to be further integrated into Pichu’s playstyle.

Side special will now travel forward, like Pikachu's skull bash.  This makes the attack feel more familiar, buffs Pichu's recovery, and buffs the range of the attack itself.  It won't travel as far as a charged skull bash, but the difference from before is nonetheless significant!

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Down special has been given a special gimmick.  If Pichu is attacked during the armored frames of down special, Pichu will gain a specialized buff! This reduces the startup of Side Special and also grants Pichu super armor for a set amount of time! Be careful how you attack this one!

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Shadow’s Up Special has been somewhat re-purposed as well. It previously was a singular teleport of short distance, allowing for little options and creativity and overall being an underwhelming maneuver.

In an attempt to rectify this Shadow’s recovery has been revamped significantly as it now consists of up to 5 teleportations of shorter distance that can be performed in succession! The teleportations do not have to be performed one immediately after another, allowing the player to mix it up, making Shadow’s recovery harder to intercept.

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Additionally, this special is further enhanced when Shadow is under the influence of Chaos Boost! When that happens, Shadow is capable of attacking once after each of the 5 teleportations! The attack performed will depend on the held direction whilst Shadow is re-appearing. Left and right determine facing direction, from which point onwards you can input Up, Diagonally (Up or Down) and Down for a total of 4 possible attacks - experiment and play around with these tools!

Shadow’s new recovery has a multitude of options that enable creative players to dissuade interception attempts. However, how well that works out will depend on you!

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We've also been improving special effects and animation quality around the board.  Characters and attacks look and feel better than ever before! For starters, Shadow’s special effects have been remade in an effort to adequately represent his chaos powers. This gives his normal attacks far more flair and personality!

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Last but not least, we couldn’t leave out the one and only Captain Falcon! As you can see, the animations of Up Air and Forward Air have received a much-needed upgrade, now closely resembling their console versions! Styling never looked this good!

Full-Res image gallery: https://imgur.com/a/oAkR6

Excited to try out 0.9.1?  Let us know what you think!  Tune in next week to see how we've changed Ganondorf!
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Braystar
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:21 am by Braystar
Really nice, Always wondered if Lucas was going to get PK Freeze.
And Ashley's Down Tilt i great!
TaXMaN
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:57 am by TaXMaN
I'm digging these special effect/animation improvements!
sluigi123
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:07 am by sluigi123
You guys never disappoint me, as always. Razz
Keep up the good work! Clap
wheeled_tank
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:38 am by wheeled_tank
Yes, but I was also hoping for a buff to Krystal's Air speed


Anyways, nice base changes all around. Is Pichu's Side special faster now too? That was my biggest the problem with it (though the range increase will probably make it fine without the speed boost)
Nix~
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:35 am by Nix~
I see now why this took so long. Great job guys!
crazybark
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:40 am by crazybark
shadows gonna be fun
Kirb-Star
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:16 pm by Kirb-Star
I like these changes.
Though I'm a little dissapointed Lucas is pretty much a rehash of his Project M version, maybe make an alternate playstyle for Lucas which uses his moves from Brawl? Maybe?
Can't wait to see how you've improved Ganondorf.
procrastinatingDestiny
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:16 pm by procrastinatingDestiny
This looks fabulous guys, but I think Captain Falcon's knee needs more of a spotlight, love shadow's effects and Lucas' attacks and animations look fabulous
OmegaSteve777
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:53 pm by OmegaSteve777
There's even more to Ganondorf?!
armatage
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:59 pm by armatage
You know, I could complain that release seems like a distant dream (not that you haven't heard it before), but it's a little tired and whiny to do so; but I feel I must add something.

This game is toast.

We need to watch the release like a hawk and try to keep this on the down-low because as soon as this gets finished; Nintendo is probably going to see this as competition (free competition at that) and is going to nuke this shit in .5 seconds or less; assuming this gets popular (which it might).

I really like what's shown and I'll definitely wait as long as it takes no matter how painful it will feel; but I must ask: how are you going to deal with potential legal trouble?
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Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:59 pm by Dustination
armatage wrote:
[Essay]

Welcome to months ago
If there is legal trouble we stop making the game, obviously
armatage
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:07 pm by armatage
Dustination wrote:
armatage wrote:
[Essay]

Welcome to months ago
If there is legal trouble we stop making the game, obviously

Well, that's a straightforward answer, must have missed it.
I hope that doesn't happen, the game looks like it's coming along quite nicely; and I do want to see the final product
Alexander
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:42 am by Alexander
armatage wrote:
You know, I could complain that release seems like a distant dream (not that you haven't heard it before), but it's a little tired and whiny to do so; but I feel I must add something.

This game is toast.

We need to watch the release like a hawk and try to keep this on the down-low because as soon as this gets finished; Nintendo is probably going to see this as competition (free competition at that) and is going to nuke this shit in .5 seconds or less; assuming this gets popular (which it might).

I really like what's shown and I'll definitely wait as long as it takes no matter how painful it will feel; but I must ask: how are you going to deal with potential legal trouble?

There are more popular smash fan games *cough*ssf2*cough* that would probably be fried first imo, if Nintendo were so inclined.

The thign that would put us in most danger would be if we had ad revenue enabled on indiedb or whatever it's called. And I honestly don't know if we do or not.

In fact, I can't imagine that some Nintendo execs aren't aware of SSF2.
King Proto
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:02 am by King Proto
Looking good guys! Yay
Broke The Screeen
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:35 pm by Broke The Screeen
Alexander wrote:
armatage wrote:
You know, I could complain that release seems like a distant dream (not that you haven't heard it before), but it's a little tired and whiny to do so; but I feel I must add something.

This game is toast.

We need to watch the release like a hawk and try to keep this on the down-low because as soon as this gets finished; Nintendo is probably going to see this as competition (free competition at that) and is going to nuke this shit in .5 seconds or less; assuming this gets popular (which it might).

I really like what's shown and I'll definitely wait as long as it takes no matter how painful it will feel; but I must ask: how are you going to deal with potential legal trouble?

There are more popular smash fan games *cough*ssf2*cough* that would probably be fried first imo, if Nintendo were so inclined.

The thign that would put us in most danger would be if we had ad revenue enabled on indiedb or whatever it's called.  And I honestly don't know if we do or not.


In fact, I can't imagine that some Nintendo execs aren't aware of SSF2.
Well, actually, whenever I come to the forums (either it be from phone or laptop) there's always an ad or 2. So there's that.
wheeled_tank
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:57 pm by wheeled_tank
I think that is Forumotion itself putting those up and not the Crusade team.
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Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:51 pm by Dustination
Yeah that's forumotion, there is no revenue being generated.
Moats
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:29 pm by Moats
Alexander wrote:
armatage wrote:
In fact, I can't imagine that some Nintendo execs aren't aware of SSF2.
They're fully aware of both games, I can assure you of that. There is nothing to worry about, for the time being.


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Steven
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:41 am by Steven
The animation upgrades look great!
Szion
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:06 am by Szion
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you serious? i play the sonic characters...all of them. i need to ask who thought 5 was an appropriate amount of teleports.

3. three my dude. tops.
crazybark
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Sun Dec 11, 2016 6:44 am by crazybark
Szion wrote:
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you serious? i play the sonic characters...all of them. i need to ask who thought 5 was an appropriate amount of teleports.

3.   three my dude. tops.

cant you just smell the teleport spam coming. ITS GLORIOUS!!!
Perfect Hell
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:13 pm by Perfect Hell
They're even shorter than the old one, which was already the shortest, lagiest and least invincible teleport in the game. It's extremely easy to punish teleport spam.
Lv. 1 CPU
Re: Diverse Improvements on Character Cast!
Post Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:41 am by Lv. 1 CPU
Really nice,but why did you change PK Ground? Couldn't you just buffed PK Ground instead of making Lucas his PM version?
 

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