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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Wed May 03, 2017 2:53 pm

Sakurai himself says that characters like Goku, Spongebob and Shrek will never be in Smash, because it's about videogame characters, not everything ever made
If you want Link fighting Darth Vader, play MUGEN instead
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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Wed May 03, 2017 2:57 pm

Braystar wrote:
Sakurai himself says that characters like Goku, Spongebob and Shrek will never be in Smash, because it's about videogame characters, not everything ever made
If you want Link fighting Darth Vader, play MUGEN instead

OmegaSteve777 wrote:
But then there's the argument about characters that are big in the video game industry having no chance despite having more games than most characters in Smash already. Shantae's had 4 games, but Mickey's been in dozens more.

(I'm only playing Devil's Advocate, just go with it.)
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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Wed May 03, 2017 8:37 pm

Braystar wrote:
Sakurai himself says that characters like Goku, Spongebob and Shrek will never be in Smash, because it's about videogame characters, not everything ever made
If you want Link fighting Darth Vader, play MUGEN instead
But what good is a fangame if it's just the real thing but with worse graphics?
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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Wed May 03, 2017 8:41 pm

I don't know, maybe the inclusion of video game characters that could never get into Smash normally
There's such a wide amount of characters from videogames alone, it would be nonsensical to just add every character ever known from different forms of media into the game
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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Wed May 03, 2017 8:51 pm

It wouldn't be bad so much as it would simply be impossible. You're referring to a situation that isn't happening and no one is saying it should. With this many characters, however, the roster's bound to have at least one of most people's favorites.
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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:56 am

The thing about Goku is that he has a ton of Nintendo history. Spongebob and Shrek just have some throwaway portable games and these mysteriously nice multiplat console games. Not great choices, but Goku? He has a laundry list of now-classic NES and SNES titles, and is just as valid as any Final Fantasy character. A proper Goku in a Smash would have moves from the fighting games, and probably a random card-based special (hey, Game & Watch already did it) somewhere. Mickey is similar. He has a very strong Capcom trilogy on the SNES, Sega's Illusion titles, and even Epic Mickey. The problem is that these lead to a slippery slope where you want to add in more and more and more manga and anime characters that have extensive Nintendo history, and Mickey is a huge gateway to every Capcom Disney game ever made, plus stuff like Cold Shadow. This is the real reason why these kinds of characters are avoided. If you just picked a couple of DB characters and just picked Mickey and Donald, people would get upset and demand more.

Generally, Nintendo history is very important here. Characters like Shantae make sense, because most of her games are Nintendo-minded, and the developers have close relations with Nintendo. Blaster Master/Zero would be a good pick for a Smash, for the same reason; Gunvolt and Beck, again, with their relatively high-profile Switch games on the way (although the relation to Gal Gun is a bit worrying). Developers like WayForward and Inti Creates have lots of options! Shovel Knight is a no-brainer (even before you get to the amiibo part), and an Undertale representative would be too if poor Toby didn't get left out in the cold like that. Someone really oughta get with him about a Switch port instead... maybe redo the PC version in a real engine as a nice bonus... you know, that sort of thing...

The term "fourth party" is silly. The only "fourth party" in video games is middleware or engines like CRI, Unreal Engine, Havok, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:24 pm

Well, if they were going to add more fourth party characters, I'd imagine it'd be very diverse in terms of picking who. They're wouldn't be any more DBZ characters (Except for Vegeta maybe), and Mickey could be with Scrooge McDuck because of how infamous the DuckTales NES game is. There's also potential in Spider-Man, Batman, Hatsune Miku, the Ninja Turtles and various other franchises.

Of course, I'm fairly sure Goku and Weegee will be our only "fourth party" characters to choose from. But SSF2 did eventually see Luffy, so who knows?
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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:41 am

Take a look at this guy. He fucking needs to be in a fighting game.

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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:59 am

ahem

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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:26 am

ahem #2

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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:43 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:56 pm

ahem #3

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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:30 pm

a question mark sword?
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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:54 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Not 4th party characters in super smash bros crusade   Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:30 pm

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