Super Smash Bros. Crusade Tiers Part 2 (High Tiers) Discussion!

Part 2 is here!

I tried to make each character's description more detailed than last time, while still trying to fit it within two slides, because I still suck at making videos. Eh.

But anyways, the videos will always be unlisted, so you guys can see it first, give me some feedback, then I'll make it public.

Thanks a lot, guys!
-DiamondJoyride

( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISCOjwBdfUA <- High Tiers Link.)

Nice job! I'm glad to see someone doing this, so don't stop.

Sonic - I think Bair is his best attack. It has the shortest startup and can be cancelled afterwards. I do agree with all your points, but I just wouldn't put him so high myself. It doesn't bother me though.

Goku - Can Dspecial be cancelled? If not, I'd consider it one of the worst moves in the game. All of Goku's smash attacks have long startups (except Usmash - great move), Ki Blast can't be autocancelled, and Nair is worse than Fox's Fair.

Ness - Fsmash isn't that great because it's too slow. Other than that, I agree.

Meta Knight - I mostly agree with his placing here, so I'll just give some tips: Many of his recovery options leave him helpless, except Uspecial. When he comes out of Uspecial he is gliding, which can be cancelled by shield. I don't think he retains his jumps after cancelling glide, but he isn't helpless; he can attack. He also has trouble with KOs, as his strongest move (Fsmash) is slow and the next two (Uspecial, Sspecial) are dangerous and require setup. His last KO option (Dsmash) is weaker, but is one of his fastest moves. He is all-around annoying though.

Great job with Falcon and Jigg. Knux I don't know too much about, I still need to learn him.

Note: After playing Little Mac today, I don't think he's as bad as we all think he is. Bowser is my new worst character

Considering that the characters seem to be based off of their best appearance, Jiggly and Capt. are in good spots (even Sonic and Ness are very high in Smash 4). As for Little Mac, I still prefer Wii U Little Mac. Maybe its the Forward Smash. I dunno.

Also, if I made a tier list, it would probably be heavily biased, because my favorite character in Smash 4 is Mii Swordfighter (partly because there isn't Wolf), who is considered the 2nd worse character in the series 

Nix~ wrote:

Nice job! I'm glad to see someone doing this, so don't stop.

Sonic - I think Bair is his best attack. It has the shortest startup and can be cancelled afterwards. I do agree with all your points, but I just wouldn't put him so high myself. It doesn't bother me though.

Goku - Can Dspecial be cancelled? If not, I'd consider it one of the worst moves in the game. All of Goku's smash attacks have long startups (except Usmash - great move), Ki Blast can't be autocancelled, and Nair is worse than Fox's Fair.

Ness - Fsmash isn't that great because it's too slow. Other than that, I agree.

Meta Knight - I mostly agree with his placing here, so I'll just give some tips: Many of his recovery options leave him helpless, except Uspecial. When he comes out of Uspecial he is gliding, which can be cancelled by shield. I don't think he retains his jumps after cancelling glide, but he isn't helpless; he can attack. He also has trouble with KOs, as his strongest move (Fsmash) is slow and the next two (Uspecial, Sspecial) are dangerous and require setup. His last KO option (Dsmash) is weaker, but is one of his fastest moves. He is all-around annoying though.

Great job with Falcon and Jigg. Knux I don't know too much about, I still need to learn him.

Note: After playing Little Mac today, I don't think he's as bad as we all think he is. Bowser is my new worst character

Thanks! I don't plan on stopping at all.

For Sonic: It might just be my bias because I main him, but I feel he could go maybe one spot higher in the future. Just me though, and my Sonic bias.

For Goku: Yeah, Nair is a pretty garbage move if it doesn't hit. So much endlag lol. And I still feel that Ki Blast is good for approaching, even if it can't be cancelled.

For Ness: Yeah, F-Smash is slow, just experimented with him a couple of hours ago. Other than that he's a great character.

For MK: Yeah, to be honest I completely forgot about his attack out of Up B. Must've slipped my mind. My B.

Also, Knuckles is better than most people make him out to be. At least, in my opinion.

Thanks for the compliments on Jiggs and Falcon. Appreciate it!

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"Bowser is my new worst character"
Kek, you are gonna love next video.

I played a little Knux a while back and got the impression that he'd be no lower than B tier. I just haven't put the time into him yet.

Nix~ wrote:

I played a little Knux a while back and got the impression that he'd be no lower than B tier. I just haven't put the time into him yet.

Yeah, he's a really good fighter.