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Perfect Hell



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PostSubject: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:20 pm



"If you're not here to help my friend, then get out of my way, so I can do it myself!"

Isaac is the main protagonist of Golden Sun, a cult classic GBA RPG recognized by its fans as one of the greatest RPGs of its time, if not of all time.  

He is a Venus Adept, which allows him control over the elements and earth/nature in particular.  He carries a broadsword and mixes swordplay with earth magic and Djinn summons to defeat his foes.

"Djinn are the elemental entities that bolster the Psynergy capabilities of the Adepts. The singular form of Djinn is Djinni. They originated from Mt. Aleph and were spread across Weyard when the mountain erupted. "



Appearances:
- Golden Sun - GBA - 2001 - Main protagonist
- Golden Sun: The Lost Age - GBA - 2002 - Playable
- Golden Sun: Dark Dawn - DS - 2010 - Cameo/Story figure
- Golden Sun is now available on the Wii U VC, and i highly recommend it

Why he should be in Crusade

- Represents a well-loved RPG classic
- Has appeared on several Nintendo handhelds and is now available revived on the Wii U
- Brings a unique spellsword style to Crusade
- Focus' on earth and nature magic, something no one else does

Moveset
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:19 am

I thought a couple of dtilt, utilt and fair were being changed? Or were they just our "agree to disagree" moveslots?
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:48 pm


I would fully support Isaac as a playable character. I was surprised he wasn't in Smash 4 in any form.
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:02 pm

Dry wrote:
I thought a couple of dtilt, utilt and fair were being changed? Or were they just our "agree to disagree" moveslots?

Im fairly sure we compromised on those. Dtilt got an added sword swing so it's part intuitive sword attack part magic reference. Utilt, same deal. Fair got a changed color for overall character coherence.

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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:52 am

Your moveset defenetively shows just how much potential Isaac has, full support
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:24 pm

Updated moveset with a working final smash (judgement) gif

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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:21 pm

With all certainty, full support for Isaac from me. Great work, PH.
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:12 pm

Sounds interesting.

Isaac has enough potential for fighting in this game XD. However, for Neutral Special I was suggesting this:

-Flare: Using the Mars Psynergy, Isaac charges and throws a powerful fireball which explodes when it touches an enemy.

About the rest of the moveset, nice ideas XD.





I support him because he's a cool and interesting character. Adding to SSBB as an Assist Trophy rather than a playable Newcomer was the worst asshole mistake Sakurai done in his masterpeice saga (are you kidding me, Sakurai? Are you lacking of chromosomas, or WTF?)...And also, Robin, honestly, is a ripoff of this character...So, altought I don't lose the hopes for seeing him in action in SSB4, I'm hoping for seeing him in action in this game...


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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:15 pm

SSF2 DIED IIIT FUUUUUUUREEEEESSSupportSSSCCCCYTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:55 pm

Support
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:23 pm

I've never been a fan of Golden Sun but I think your moveset sold me so.... I'll support
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:23 am

I support, but what design would he use, his original design or Dark Dawn appearence? Through I prefer his Dark Dawn design he would look better as a child.
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:49 am

Support.
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:24 am

Original design for sure

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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:07 pm

Support for the golden son! o/
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:22 pm

desu wrote:
I support, but what design would he use, his original design or Dark Dawn appearence? Through I prefer his Dark Dawn design he would look better as a child.

Dude, it's more than obvious that he could have his original design XD.
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:46 pm

MarioStrikerMurphy1994 wrote:
desu wrote:
I support, but what design would he use, his original design or Dark Dawn appearence? Through I prefer his Dark Dawn design he would look better as a child.

Dude, it's more than obvious that he could have his original design XD.

No it's not. It's pretty likely he'd have his original, which he should, since it's more iconic and well-known, but it's a valid question.
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:11 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:58 pm

Lego Shaq wrote:
MarioStrikerMurphy1994 wrote:
desu wrote:
I support, but what design would he use, his original design or Dark Dawn appearence? Through I prefer his Dark Dawn design he would look better as a child.

Dude, it's more than obvious that he could have his original design XD.

No it's not. It's pretty likely he'd have his original, which he should, since it's more iconic and well-known, but it's a valid question.

Ok.

And, now, how much do you support him for Crusade?
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:04 am

support
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:42 am

MarioStrikerMurphy1994 wrote:
Lego Shaq wrote:
MarioStrikerMurphy1994 wrote:
desu wrote:
I support, but what design would he use, his original design or Dark Dawn appearence? Through I prefer his Dark Dawn design he would look better as a child.

Dude, it's more than obvious that he could have his original design XD.

No it's not. It's pretty likely he'd have his original, which he should, since it's more iconic and well-known, but it's a valid question.

Ok.

And, now, how much do you support him for Crusade?
Shouldn't PH be asking this?

I support, only reason he shouldn't be in is because of the SSF2 "backlash".
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:03 pm

Not if we base him off Project M or make him use, you know, an original moveset, with original sprites to boot.
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:21 pm

@Trinitro (mobile)
Uh nope, not how it works. The CHARACTER will cause uproar, not the moveset or sprites. Go back to Draculas Castle, reread what EVERYONE said, then realize that yes, even with new sprites and a moveset there will be an uproar.
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:58 pm

Even if there could be one: Why should we care? It's a fangame, for christ's sake.
It's not like we're trying to gain money from this game or something.
And Project M also got Isaac, yet there was absolutely no uproar from the SSF2 side when that happened. So why should Crusade be a special case?
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:12 pm

Project M got Isaac when it was revealed to be dead. No time for envy from SSF2.
PM is a mod of Brawl and is not really a fangame, especially not a computer one.

Of course the games not intended for money, but we could definitely use more respect in the Smash community. SSF2 backlash won't get us that.

Keep in mind I support Isaac.
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:23 pm

Hmm...having respect is a good thing.
However, it's really stupid to not include something in the game simply because the rival game has it.
That would limit the game way too much IMHO.
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:28 pm

So what if Isaac is in SSF2? Unless we straight up copy their interpretation, then no. But we won't do that
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:29 am

TSON accused us of stealing things such as the way Ness rotates in his up special and the hitbox on Goku's Kaio-ken so I don't really give a shit anymore
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:58 am

Really... holy-
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PostSubject: Re: Isaac (Golden Sun) Discussion   Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:08 am

Oh wow, TSON sounds like a complete jackass based on Dustination's expierience.
And to think that I once liked SSF2... Facepalm
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