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Spoon300
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PostSubject: Wizeman the Wicked (NiGHTS into Dreams) Discussion   Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:32 pm

Wizeman is the cruel creator and dictator of Nightmare and fancies himself a god. He despises light and good; he'll stop at nothing to destroy Nightopia and spread darkness to everything. As ruler of Nightmare, Wizeman desires to destroy Nightopia and recreate it in his own image. To achieve this, he created the other Nightmarens to steal Ideya, which would thereby eliminate Nightopia from existence. He is also regarded as the "father" of NiGHTS, Reala, Jackle and possibly all the Nightmarens. Now that NiGHTS has managed to enter the Realm of Crusade, he awaits at the Final Destination in a New, Armored Form alongside this realm's masters of Creaton and Destruction.

Intro: Wizeman stands up off his Throne with Axe in hand.

Outfit: A more-Battle Ready version of his Robes, Featuring Sleeveless Holes for the Armored Arms he uses to hold the Axe I imagined exclusively for Crusade

Gameplay Style: Picture a more realistically proportioned King Dedede with a freaking Giant Axe, and you have the Standards and Smash Attacks of Wizeman, Using magic for his Grab attacks.

Dash Attack: Jumps and Slams his Axe into the Ground.

B: Poker Hand - He tosses cards about as his projectiles ala Jackle.

up+B: Bubble Burst - Wizeman generates Puffy/Donbalon around him, It flies up and once it pops, It sends Wizeman sailing upwards.

side+B: Go Fish - Gulpo/Girania lunges forth in a Charge against the Fighter.

down+B: Cerberus the Hellhound - Wizeman Plants his Sheild, Allowing Cerberus the Hellhound to Surround him with it's Two Heads

Final Smash: "Sink into the Darkness" one of his disembodied hands Rips a Hole in the Fabric of the Universe, Tornados rock the Stage, Meteors Shower the Fighters and Wizeman pulls a Great Aether-esque finisher with His Axe against whichever poor fools are sucked into the black hole...

Yes, I've got big plans for this fella in Classic Mode should you choose to let him and NiGHTS into the fray. Three new varieties of Special Orders which I shall add sometime in the Future.


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PostSubject: Re: Wizeman the Wicked (NiGHTS into Dreams) Discussion   Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:31 am

I rather see him as a Stage Hazard
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PostSubject: Re: Wizeman the Wicked (NiGHTS into Dreams) Discussion   Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:25 am

While I don't have anything to say about the character yet, THANK YOU Spoon for doing it right this time.

You gave a nice introductory paragraph telling us where the character comes from. You also gave a bunch of moveset ideas which can be discussed. Now, to really flesh out your threads, maybe you could also give reasons why you think the character is better than other potential characters.

Keep your posts at this standard or better, and you won't be banned again.
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PostSubject: Re: Wizeman the Wicked (NiGHTS into Dreams) Discussion   Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:37 am

A picture would be nice. I haven't played much into NiGHTS (only like 30 minutes on the Wii game), so I'm not really sure what he looks like...

Spoon300 wrote:
Now that NiGHTS has managed to enter the Realm of Crusade, he awaits at the Final Destination in a New, Armored Form alongside this realms masters of Creaton and Destruction. He has even summoned an ally from the digital realm experienced by what you call the "PlayStation All-Stars" to create enhanced clones of the spirits of Creation and Destruction.
No. No. Don't bring your fanfictiony idea of the hands and stuff into this. This is for playable characters, ignoring any possible story aspects. The background information should be factual information from his game.

And what Dry said - some reason why he should be playable over other possible characters. How does he play? Is he just a giant axe user?
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PostSubject: Re: Wizeman the Wicked (NiGHTS into Dreams) Discussion   Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:10 pm

He uses his Marens for his specials and his Axe for His standards and smashes and the like.

His final smash takes pages from his bossfight at the end of both entries in his native franchise with an added hand from Crazy Hand, while the rest... I just had to wing it.
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PostSubject: Re: Wizeman the Wicked (NiGHTS into Dreams) Discussion   Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:34 pm

Remove Crazy Hand from the final smash. He should definitely not do that.

I'm trying to figure out what makes Wizeman unique - it seems like the only thing is that he's an axe user, which isn't all that unique to begin with... Even if we have NiGHTS, it's not likely we would have 2 NiGHTS reps over other franchises (or even other Sega franchises). Why should we care about Wizeman?



Another note: If you want to convince people to use your ideas, you need to be more subtle about it. Don't advertise your classic/special orders/whatever ideas in every post you make - just focus on one thing at a time. People are more likely to go against your characters if you try to link it all together before any of your ideas get any support, but you can slowly get some smaller ideas in if you do a good job with it. In time, maybe you'll see a bigger picture start to unfold.
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