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PostSubject: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:50 pm

Earlier this morning, I posted movesets for new original Smash Bros. Fighters to act as Smash Reps Marco and Cress who act as a blend of Any or all Smash Bros Fighters old and New, I even planned final smashes where the boys would be able to summon the Hands we know and love.

But the poor forums were locked, does this mean that they're considered *GULP!* Fourth Party?

On a related note, do the Twitch Plays Pokemon qualify as Fourth Party, too?
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:19 pm

Starting to wonder if this is a troll thread...

Even if Marco and Cress were to have a chance of getting in, there are dozens of other video game characters who would be ahead of original characters. The whole point of Smash Bros. is to get characters from our favorite games together to beat each other up! Why? Because we know and appreciate these characters in their own games, making it even cooler when they get together in the same game. With original characters, this is not the case, since we have no sort of investment in them whatsoever. That's why in Smash, the only original characters are typically boss or villain characters, since the playable characters need common foes to take down.
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:20 pm

Your topics being locked should have been indication enough.

http://projectcrusade.forumotion.com/t3493-rules-characters-with-existing-threads-please-read-before-creating-a-topic

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 No suggestions for characters that are "meme" or those who originated from web video series and other similar media. THIS INCLUDES ORIGINAL CHARACTERS.

^ This applies to TPP as well.

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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:22 pm

He kinda reminds me of Zoro90, only this time he passed English.
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:35 pm

Gamey DJ wrote:
He kinda reminds me of Zoro90, only this time he passed English.

He's just enthusiastic. I don't want to see anyone personally attacking him, please.

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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:18 am

Gamey DJ wrote:
He kinda reminds me of Zoro90, only this time he passed English.

Nothing matches to Zoro90. That was just oblivion.
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:04 pm

HypeConduit wrote:
Gamey DJ wrote:
He kinda reminds me of Zoro90, only this time he passed English.

Nothing matches to Zoro90. That was just oblivion.

I agree. Spoon is sorta like Corey lite.

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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:05 pm

Dustination wrote:
I don't want to see anyone personally attacking him, please.
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:11 pm

Hey, you should be grateful it was just locked. Razz

Mine was straight up deleted.
devz thot jiggth wuz bad ideuh. i cri evrytim ;~;

e~ oh wow, what a 666th post.
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:23 pm

Yeah, I am Grateful to you guys, thanks for not deleting those two crazy kids... they're like my children, y'know...
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:24 pm

It should have been assumed that original characters shouldn't be allowed especially since 4th party characters who are actually established aren't even allowed.

Kirby yours was deleted because it was so completely out there we thought it was a joke. Not to mention you posted it after the "no memes" rule was added.

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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:41 pm

Dustination wrote:
Not to mention you posted it after the "no memes" rule was added.
Really? I thought mine was the cause of that rule being added.
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:40 am

If original fighters are out of the question...How about original bosses?
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:29 am

Spoon300 wrote:
How about original bosses?

Actually, this is a pretty interesting question. I'd consider it, each Smash game having a new boss or two.
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:44 am

There was always the half-serious idea of having DMX, Phantom and Falcon as final bosses.
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:25 pm

Ha! That would be interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:18 pm

HypeConduit wrote:
Spoon300 wrote:
How about original bosses?

Actually, this is a pretty interesting question. I'd consider it, each Smash game having a new boss or two.
Falcon8r wrote:
Ha! That would be interesting.

Marvelous! Then allow me to introduce:

Slender Hand
A feminine right hand who prefers magic over physical attacks and even has an ice effect added to her moveset.

Nimble Hand
A cartoony left hand who's bouncing with so much energy, he's conducted static!

Do you want to see the movesets they'd bring to the table? Wanna see their versions of the Special Orders? Let me know!
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:29 pm

My only issue with your suggestion is the fact that Master and Crazy hands are supposed to be the two hands of the person behind Smash Bros. One being the Creator and the other being the Destroyer. Adding in more hands would imply that they've got a few extra limbs. Not only that, but the suggestions you made don't really make sense with the other hands. They don't... have a role? I guess? I know it's a bit of a grasp, but Master Hand and Crazy Hand have mythos that makes sense. Where as those are just "A lady hand" and a "cartoon hand" It's a bit underwhelming to be honest with you.

I will say that they don't need to be hands either. A more unique original boss would be more interesting. Adding to M. Hand and C. Hands moves would be the best solution, and making a boss more like Giga Bowser (AKA not another dang hand) would be more interesting, In my honest opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:23 pm

Nights Owl wrote:
My only issue with your suggestion is the fact that Master and Crazy hands are supposed to be the two hands of the person behind Smash Bros. One being the Creator and the other being the Destroyer. Adding in more hands would imply that they've got a few extra limbs. Not only that, but the suggestions you made don't really make sense with the other hands. They don't... have a role? I guess? I know it's a bit of a grasp, but Master Hand and Crazy Hand have mythos that makes sense. Where as those are just "A lady hand" and a "cartoon hand" It's a bit underwhelming to be honest with you.

I will say that they don't need to be hands either. A more unique original boss would be more interesting. Adding to M. Hand and C. Hands moves would be the best solution, and making a boss more like Giga Bowser (AKA not another dang hand) would be more interesting, In my honest opinion.

That's because you don't know who created those extra hands In-Universe...

Polygon Man
From PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale, he awaits at the Throne Room of the Master Fortress with his helping hands Slender Hand and Nimble Hand, which he has woven from the fabric of the spirits of creation and destruction respectively.

See, Now I've given them a role. As for other bosses, I think I can create something like that very soon...
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:29 pm

I don't think you understood what I meant in the slightest. x_x
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:45 pm

I'll keep saying it untill you guys do it.

Giga Ridley.

As for Polygon man, he sounds so cheesy it's not even remotely funny.

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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:54 pm

Slissith wrote:
I'll keep saying it untill you guys do it.

Giga Ridley.

Amazing, Now let's see your design for the guy!
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:07 pm

Spoon300 wrote:
Slissith wrote:
I'll keep saying it untill you guys do it.

Giga Ridley.

Amazing, Now let's see your design for the guy!

I don't really have a concrete design so to speak, but in my vision Giga Ridley would be a bigger, more alien-ish and more intimidating version of ridley. For example, he could have an inner mouth like Alien, 2 pairs of eyes which leak greed liquid, pinchers/claws attacked to his wrists, a tail that ends to a head resembling one of his previous forms (from other M) etc.

As for attacks, he could attack with his inner mouth (which would be retracted), spewing acid or something, grinding his claws/pinchers that are attacked to his wrist onto the stage and if you wanna go really radical, have him give birth to mini replicas of himself(or anything that could be his offspring).

You know, science fiction stuff.

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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:13 pm

If we were to have bosses (as in Classic / Adventure / whatever mode), I feel like we should get in actual characters before we start making up our own bosses. Sure we can have the hands (and even Polygon Man - he is the final boss for the Sony side, but none of this slender hand or whatever), but I think Giga Ridley is pushing it.

I mean, there's plenty to choose from. Ghoma, Kraid, Andross, etc. I just don't think fans want to fight our made-up bosses in a smash fangame.
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:46 am

I...Did not quite understand that explanation for Polygon Man, Spoon :/

Though I think as well that original bosses would be a great idea, why not having something that's less inspired from other games, Spoon? Like... I dunno, the game's called "Crusade", and the new emblem of the game is a broken shield, thus following the idea of the title. A possibility of an original boss could be... Hmm...
Oh, yes. How about a giant armored knight-like being who attacks with a shield (or 2, maybe, dunno), said shield(s) having specific abilities and the goal of the fight would be destroying it/them? Afterwards a second pattern would follow where the knight becomes more dangerous and unpredictable, but also less resistant due to the lack of shield.


Just an idea I came up with while typing, don't consider it if you find it too cliché or cheesy. I could eventually think about it more seriously, though.

Also, Giga Ridley... God, yes, that would be amazing.
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:32 pm

Isn't 2 gigas enough for the smash world? Cause it is to me. Giga Ridley sounds too forced. Meta Ridley though could be a better fitting idea. Also no for polygon mang, toon hand, and missus hand. I think that would confuse our players and/or make them miss Master and Crazy hand.
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PostSubject: Re: (Question) Original Fighters, Yay or Nay?   Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:45 pm

Tortwag wrote:
Though I think as well that original bosses would be a great idea, why not having something that's less inspired from other games, Spoon? Like... I dunno, the game's called "Crusade", and the new emblem of the game is a broken shield, thus following the idea of the title. A possibility of an original boss could be... Hmm...
Oh, yes. How about a giant armored knight-like being who attacks with a shield (or 2, maybe, dunno), said shield(s) having specific abilities and the goal of the fight would be destroying it/them? Afterwards a second pattern would follow where the knight becomes more dangerous and unpredictable, but also less resistant due to the lack of shield.

^ And that? Any chance this could actually become something? Or just too farfetched? Again, it's just something I came up with out of the blue, so it's fine either way.
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