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PostSubject: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:55 pm

Bandana Waddle Dee at your service!

"Hey, it’s everyone’s idol! Don't let the cute fool you! He’s a brave warrior who may be small, but his spear packs a huge wallop!" -In Game Description, Kirby's Return to Dreamland.

Bandana Waddle Dee is a main character of the Kirby franchise. He's the newest main character of the bunch.

His first appearance was Kirby Super Star, where he was the first opponent of the Megaton Punch!! Minigame. After that, he took a break for several years until Kirby Super Star Ultra. He came back to Megaton Punch!!, but also appeared as a "Boss". He protected King Dedede the best he could from Kirby while Dedede prepared his final showdown. Poor Bandana Dee was easily defeated. After that, he watched Dedede get defeated and blasted out of the castle.

Then comes the year of 2010, Kirby's Return to Dream Land. This game features 4 player co-op, with Bandana Waddle Dee being the 4th playable character. wielding his spear, he is a very powerful character. He also appeared in Kirby Triple Deluxe as a supporting character, giving Kirby helpful items to fight bosses and save the King!
He recently has been confirmed to appear in Kirby & the Rainbow Curse as a playable character. The game has 5-player co-op, 4 Bandana Waddle Dee's play on the TV while Kirby is playing on the gamepad. We don't know much about his appearance in this game other than he can walk around, transform like Kirby (Although, not as well).

Bandana Waddle Dee's appearance in Kirby & the Rainbow Curse


What could Bandana Waddle Dee bring to Crusade? Well, other than Krystal, he'd be the only character who wields a spear. He could use his spear to stab foes away. He'd have long range as well. Not only that, but he could also use a cannon that was shown in the latest Kirby & the Rainbow Curse trailer. He'd be representing Waddle Dee's everywhere, meaning a parasol would also be a great idea!

Moveset:
 

I hope you'll all support this little fellow!\

Credits to Mellon for some moveset ideas.


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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:20 pm

Yeah, I'm up for another Kirby Rep.
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:42 pm

Special attacks could be

Neutral+B: Spear Throw
Bandana waddle dee charges up a throw, the speed and power of the spear depends how long you charge.

Up+B: Hover Spin

Probably how toad's Up+B would work, only the spinning of the spear attacks more frequently, but to make up for it, it will do less damage each time. (Not to the point where it goes down to 0 damage) and Bandana waddle dee cannot do anything but move in directions after the attack is stopped (The attack is stoppable by press the down button is what i mean.)

Side+B: Body Slam

This move is also chargeable but after a certain amount of seconds it will automatically initiate.
And like so, power and knockback depend on how long you charge it.
And this attack works how waddles dees normally attack when it initiates.

Down+B: Spear Smash

This move is not that powerful, but is slightly good in knockback
Bandana Waddle dee will jump and then plop onto the ground with a spear, making 2 stars fly out of the landing in opposite directions and if the spear lands on the opponent, it will make the opponent trapped in the ground for a certain amount of time.

Grab:Bandana waddle dee reaches out to grab the opponent.

Pummble:
Bandana Waddle dee hits the opponent with the back his spear.

Right Throw:
Bandana waddle dee will throw the opponent as if it was a box, then throw spears at the opponent while whom is being fought is airborn.

Down Throw:
Bandana waddle dee throws the oppnent to the ground, and then rolls on it , and the oppoent will be struck by his spear several times, and then get blown away

Back throw:
Bandana Waddle dee bounces the opponent on his parasol, and then get blown off backwards.

Up throw:
Bandana Waddle dee will kick the opponent into the air.

BWD could have 2 final smashes, One consisting of the use of the cannon as mentioned above.

1st Final Smash:Cannon Ball
BWD will pull out a cannon, blasting out a certain number of stars at whoever is caught in his grasp. Then, throwing whom who got pwned, a little bit away from him, BWD will then jump into his cannon and fire himself at the opponent, Dealing massive damage and knockback.

2nd Final Smash: Spear Storm
You get a choise of who you want to wreak havoc on by aiming at whom you choose and pressing the b button after the decision is made, then BWD will summon a warp star and fly to the background of the stage, then throw spears rapidly at whom was chosen, then finish them off with BWD crashing the warp star onto the opponent, sending them flying out of the stage.



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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:51 pm

Support! I really want to play as that little guy!
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:11 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:22 pm

This is definitely the best Kirby rep, and also gives us a spear user. His moveset practically makes itself. Definitely supporting.
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:50 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:57 pm

CrashingSquirtle wrote:
Special attacks could be

Neutral+B: Spear Throw
Bandana waddle dee charges up a throw, the speed and power of the spear depends how long you charge.

Up+B: Hover Spin

Probably how toad's Up+B would work, only the spinning of the spear attacks more frequently, but to make up for it, it will do less damage each time. (Not to the point where it goes down to 0 damage) and Bandana waddle dee cannot do anything but move in directions after the attack is stopped (The attack is stoppable by press the down button is what i mean.)

Side+B: Body Slam

This move is also chargeable but after a certain amount of seconds it will automatically initiate.
And like so, power and knockback depend on how long you charge it.
And this attack works how waddles dees normally attack when it initiates.

Down+B: Spear Smash

This move is not that powerful, but is slightly good in knockback
Bandana Waddle dee will jump and then plop onto the ground with a spear, making 2 stars fly out of the landing in opposite directions and if the spear lands on the opponent, it will make the opponent trapped in the ground for a certain amount of time.

Grab:Bandana waddle dee reaches out to grab the opponent.

Pummble:
Bandana Waddle dee hits the opponent with the back his spear.

Right Throw:
Bandana waddle dee will throw the opponent as if it was a box, then throw spears at the opponent while whom is being fought is airborn.

Down Throw:
Bandana waddle dee throws the oppnent to the ground, and then rolls on it , and the oppoent will be struck by his spear several times, and then get blown away

Back throw:
Bandana Waddle dee bounces the opponent on his parasol, and then get blown off backwards.

Up throw:
Bandana Waddle dee will kick the opponent into the air.

BWD could have 2 final smashes, One consisting of the use of the cannon as mentioned above.

1st Final Smash:Cannon Ball
BWD will pull out a cannon, blasting out a certain number of stars at whoever is caught in his grasp. Then, throwing whom who got pwned, a little bit away from him, BWD will then jump into his cannon and fire himself at the opponent, Dealing massive damage and knockback.

2nd Final Smash: Spear Storm
You get a choise of who you want to wreak havoc on by aiming at whom you choose and pressing the b button after the decision is made, then BWD will summon a warp star and fly to the background of the stage, then throw spears rapidly at whom was chosen, then finish them off with BWD crashing the warp star onto the opponent, sending them flying out of the stage.


There are a few things I'd change personally, I'd change Side Special, Down Special, Up Throw, and the final smash.

For Side Special I think the parasol would be a good idea, kinda like in Kirby Super Star Ultra if you run and press Parasol it's an effective move... I plan on doing a more in depth moveset later.
Down Special I think using a shotzo, similar to Duck Hunt's Down Special, Waddle Dee summons a shotzo and it fires a single shot then leaves. It could also use the parasol, being a reflect move.
Up Throw should simply be waddle dee throwing the foe up, then stabbing them. Stabbing is more fun.

I want Bandana Waddle Dee to represent himself and all Waddle Dee's possible, the ultimate Waddle Dee. So to make a good moveset for him I plan on researching many other Waddle Dee things, such as the parasol.

Thanks for all the quick support everyone! Since I didn't get my wish of this character in Smash 4, I really hope it'll be a reality for Crusade! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:02 pm

oh darn i forgot about those, lol. yea i agree on both of those actually. they sound awesome!

Also, i kinda still stick with my version of the down special, i dont think i shotzo should be nessasary because theres already a projectile attack.

And i agree on changing the side special, lol just realised that attack was one of the worst moves in kirby history. heh, The side special could be a reflecting and a more damaging move than mario's side special. parasol, like a simple swing to the opponent, and you can swing at the right time to reflect projectiles.


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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:09 pm

For his side special, why not have him pull out a bomb, much like Link's down special? If you press the side+special button, he will pull out a bomb and hold it above him, and when you press the button again, he'll throw it.
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:13 pm

CrashingSquirtle wrote:
Which final smash are you referring to?

Also, i kinda still stick with my version of the down special, i dont think i shotzo should be nessasary because theres already a projectile attack.

Link has 3 projectile attacks ;P

Shotzo was just a quick thought, I'll think of something better this weekend.

As for a final smash, I think the Waddle Dee Tank from Kirby Return to Dreamland, or Megaton punch would be a great idea.
Megaton punch max level would be a good idea, while a simple Megaton Punch could be used as a good Down Smash.
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:41 pm

Dr. CanadianBacon wrote:
CrashingSquirtle wrote:
Special attacks could be

Neutral+B: Spear Throw
Bandana waddle dee charges up a throw, the speed and power of the spear depends how long you charge.

Up+B: Hover Spin

Probably how toad's Up+B would work, only the spinning of the spear attacks more frequently, but to make up for it, it will do less damage each time. (Not to the point where it goes down to 0 damage) and Bandana waddle dee cannot do anything but move in directions after the attack is stopped (The attack is stoppable by press the down button is what i mean.)

Side+B: Body Slam

This move is also chargeable but after a certain amount of seconds it will automatically initiate.
And like so, power and knockback depend on how long you charge it.
And this attack works how waddles dees normally attack when it initiates.

Down+B: Spear Smash

This move is not that powerful, but is slightly good in knockback
Bandana Waddle dee will jump and then plop onto the ground with a spear, making 2 stars fly out of the landing in opposite directions and if the spear lands on the opponent, it will make the opponent trapped in the ground for a certain amount of time.

Grab:Bandana waddle dee reaches out to grab the opponent.

Pummble:
Bandana Waddle dee hits the opponent with the back his spear.

Right Throw:
Bandana waddle dee will throw the opponent as if it was a box, then throw spears at the opponent while whom is being fought is airborn.

Down Throw:
Bandana waddle dee throws the oppnent to the ground, and then rolls on it , and the oppoent will be struck by his spear several times, and then get blown away

Back throw:
Bandana Waddle dee bounces the opponent on his parasol, and then get blown off backwards.

Up throw:
Bandana Waddle dee will kick the opponent into the air.

BWD could have 2 final smashes, One consisting of the use of the cannon as mentioned above.

1st Final Smash:Cannon Ball
BWD will pull out a cannon, blasting out a certain number of stars at whoever is caught in his grasp. Then, throwing whom who got pwned, a little bit away from him, BWD will then jump into his cannon and fire himself at the opponent, Dealing massive damage and knockback.

2nd Final Smash: Spear Storm
You get a choise of who you want to wreak havoc on by aiming at whom you choose and pressing the b button after the decision is made, then BWD will summon a warp star and fly to the background of the stage, then throw spears rapidly at whom was chosen, then finish them off with BWD crashing the warp star onto the opponent, sending them flying out of the stage.


There are a few things I'd change personally, I'd change Side Special, Down Special, Up Throw, and the final smash.

For Side Special I think the parasol would be a good idea, kinda like in Kirby Super Star Ultra if you run and press Parasol it's an effective move... I plan on doing a more in depth moveset later.
Down Special I think using a shotzo, similar to Duck Hunt's Down Special, Waddle Dee summons a shotzo and it fires a single shot then leaves. It could also use the parasol, being a reflect move.
Up Throw should simply be waddle dee throwing the foe up, then stabbing them. Stabbing is more fun.

I want Bandana Waddle Dee to represent himself and all Waddle Dee's possible, the ultimate Waddle Dee. So to make a good moveset for him I plan on researching many other Waddle Dee things, such as the parasol.

Thanks for all the quick support everyone! Since I didn't get my wish of this character in Smash 4, I really hope it'll be a reality for Crusade! Very Happy
Final Smash should be Megaton Punch IMO
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:43 pm

That's what he just implied...
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 6:19 pm

CrashingSquirtle wrote:
That's what he just implied...

I think he was agreeing ^^'
But your final smash's are fine, I just feel like something that is taken from the game would work well. Not only that, but if the developers really wanted to go the extra mile they could make it exactly like Megaton punch, where you have to time the attack 3 times to get the best results.
That's a lot of effort though, so I'd do with a perfect one as the default.
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:17 pm

Support, obviously, nice presentation, Doc Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:32 pm

Im rooting for this fella. Although he has not much resources for his moves, I think someone could sakurai it all up and id love to see the Dee Waddle on the battlefield. ohgodthatsoundedwrong
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:54 am

Support this. I really loved him in Return To Dreamland and he's a funny character.
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:54 am

Bless this Moveset...
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:31 am

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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:18 pm

This moveset is missing Megaton Punch.
It should either be his Down Special or Final Smash.

Spear Toss and Spear Copter are good options for his Neutral and Up Specials. Not too keen on the body tackle, but it was what Waddle Dees do as their general attacks, so I can personally let it slide for now.
I've always been a strong advocate for Bandana Waddle Dee, so you should know that I support this guy making it in Crusade at one point.
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:29 pm

AEM wrote:
This moveset is missing Megaton Punch.
It should either be his Down Special or Final Smash.

Spear Toss and Spear Copter are good options for his Neutral and Up Specials. Not too keen on the body tackle, but it was what Waddle Dees do as their general attacks, so I can personally let it slide for now.
I've always been a strong advocate for Bandana Waddle Dee, so you should know that I support this guy making it in Crusade at one point.

For the side special I plan to make it a Parasol Dash. Neutral special and Up Special are indeed planned to be Spear Toss, and I'm still debating on how to implement Megaton Punch. Down Special, Down Smash, or Final Smash. I was thinking both Down Smash and Final Smash, but Down Smash Megaton Punch would be a much weaker version, simply hitting the ground with a powerful hit, while Final Smash could trap a foe under Bandana Dee and hit, also showing the cutscene of Popstar cracking. Much more powerful. Still debating on it though, that's just a possibility. I like really powerful Down Smash's, so I'd be slightly bias on that one.

How does everyone else think it should be implemented into the moveset? I'd like some more opinions before I include it and finalize it.
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:55 pm

MOVESET ADDED~
Of course, I'll change anything if enough people want it changed. And if I missed a move... well tell me to fix it because I'm silly.
Glad everyone loves the character, he's my most wanted character to be in a Smash Game. Since I'm not thinking he'll be a DLC character for Smash 4, and he's an assist trophy in SSF2, I'd really love him to be here.
Once again, if the moveset should be changed, please discuss it. That's what this is all for! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:11 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Wed May 06, 2015 9:10 am

I'm working in a bandana dee sprite sheet and I found this xD
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Wed May 06, 2015 9:13 am

NekoPly wrote:
I'm working in a bandana dee sprite sheet and I found this xD
In that case, can we see it :3
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Wed May 06, 2015 2:12 pm

support. yes pls
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Mon May 11, 2015 2:54 pm

VultureDuck wrote:
NekoPly wrote:
I'm working in a bandana dee sprite sheet and I found this xD
In that case, can we see it :3

bounce .jpg rules
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Tue May 12, 2015 6:08 am

NekoPly wrote:
VultureDuck wrote:
NekoPly wrote:
I'm working in a bandana dee sprite sheet and I found this xD
In that case, can we see it :3

bounce .jpg rules
Amazing effort

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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Tue May 12, 2015 1:21 pm

I'd love to play as this little guy, SUPPORT!
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PostSubject: Re: Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) Discussion   Wed May 13, 2015 12:15 pm

I've seen this thread here and there and never bothered adding anything to the DEEscussion (I still love that). But I recently got around to beating Kirby: Triple Deluxe which gives each copy ability heaps of different moves to play around with. I actually had the most fun using the Spear ability, so I thought I'd give my thoughts on what should make it into the Dee's moves.

The current side special is nice, but I think we could move the Spear Throw here instead for reasons I'll explain later. But instead of charging a single spear throw, I suggest having the Dee throw a barrage of spears. Hence the Spear Barrage, which allows Bandana Dee to throw spears in a rapid succession, while also falling slower in the air. This would add a Yoshi-esque recovery option for Bandana Dee to use if he can't risk charging the Up B. Oh yeah, charging the Up B! That's another thing I want to add. Like with Fox and Falco, I suggest that Bandana Dee has to charge his Spear Copter for a short while before being able to take off. Oh, and the Down Air could be changed to the Moon Drop, which sends Bandana Dee rocketing downwards after a startup similar to the Bowser Bomb. Instead of being a single powerful strike, however, the Moon Drop hits multiple times and can easily trap opponents. The tip of the spear could be a meteor smash just as he finishes charging, too.

As to what his new neutral special should be...how about his cannon helmet from Kirby and the Rainbow Curse? It would fire cannonballs in an arch, similar to Mega Man's Hyper Bomb. These cannonballs can also be charged in order to power up the shot and extend the arch. Now I know what you're thinking; "That's too similar to the current Down B!" Well, yes, that is true. So sorry, guess that means I want to change all the B moves. And since we're going to represent Parasol Kirby in this moveset, I think we can change his Down B to the Parasol Twirl, where Bandana Dee jumps and twirls his parasol below him for an attack that hits multiple times before launching the opponent a...mediocre distance. He can also move slightly while this move is in use, and it it's used in the air it becomes the Parasol Dive, which sends him diagonally downwards like the Falcon Kick.

Whew, those are all of my ideas. You have my support for this character, but make sure not to forget about Triple Deluxe when making Kirby movesets.
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