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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:15 am

I hope the Ice Climbers issue can get worked out.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:49 am

Puffmeister wrote:
I hope the Ice Climbers issue can get worked out.
R.I.P. Olimar

You were fun.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:18 am

If Crusade is able to have the Ice Climbers and Olimar I don't see how the real smash cant.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:24 am

GigaPichu wrote:
If Crusade is able to have the Ice Climbers and Olimar I don't see how the real smash cant.
Because we use sprites, it's pretty clear they are already testing the 3DS with the mere graphics, they might not have the power left to control Popo or the Pikmin without it being broken, and I think they'd rather cut them than leave glitchy characters.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:44 pm

I highly doubt that would mean cutting them. They would certainly downsize them, but not cut them.

Maybe leave Popo alone and change Olimar's gimmick around for the 3DS Version.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:41 am

I made my own little research to see how fast they released new characters info for SSBB.

According to the old website's archives, they released info on an additionnal character (but still a veteran one) was Fox, after 20 days (May 22nd - Jun 11th). However, we have a lot more veteran characters revealed this time, so it may be irrelevant.

HOWEVER, the first newcomer revealed was Ike, and it's after 71 days (May 22nd - Aug 1st). We may have details on a new character by the end of this summer. SO MUCH HOPE.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:17 pm

Brawl's initial trailer: May 10th, 2006.

Brawl's 2nd trailer (which revealed Fox): November 3rd, 2006. (I would know this, as it was my birthday.)

DOJO!! revamped: May 22nd, 2007.

First reveal since then (Zelda; on the DOJO!!): June 25, 2007.

First Newcomer reveal since initial trailer (Ike; on the DOJO!!): August 1st, 2007.

So outside of Fox's reveal, which was a little less than 6 months after the initial trailer, we didn't get any fresh character information until over a year and a month after the initial trailer, with the first fresh Newcomer being a year and three months.


Given that it's only been about a month since we got Smash 4's initial trailers, we shouldn't really be starved for information on other characters just yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:00 pm

Ah. I went with what I could find on the Dojo. I forgot about the videos. But we do have to remember that they announced the game for 2014. They can't afford a year of wait, even less a year and a quarter.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:48 pm

Yeah, they can.
It only said 2014. We don't know when in 2014, and we aren't factoring in the possibility of delays like Brawl.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:24 am

CrimsonShenlong wrote:
Yeah, they can.
It only said 2014. We don't know when in 2014, and we aren't factoring in the possibility of delays like Brawl.

2014 ends in a year and an half. They can't reveal the first character one year and a quarter, that would be really dumb.

BTW, return of the lateral scrolling stage confirmed. At least, for the 3DS.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:54 pm

So, yeah, I too made my roster. But it don't have pics, like the fancy AEM did.

Roster:
 

And...

Notes:
 

Feel free to post your thoughts on it.


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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:45 pm

*I : We don,t need THREE clones.

Falco and Wolf aren't clones are semi-clones, wolf and lucas's specials are the same thing (this includes the FS)
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:21 pm

And Wolf is the most unique out of the three

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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:40 pm

Lol, I'm glad to see that's the negative point you found.

Actually, that's a very conservative moveset. Both Wolf and Lucas could be added without it seeming too big.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:47 pm

Yeah, huh, sorry about that second double post...

ANYWAY, after analyzing the ending credits of the Smash Bros vids, I realised something, most notably related to this post :

AEM wrote:
rjones1325 wrote:
I have a feeling we'll see a Namco character like pacman since they're helping on the game
I don't think Namco is helping the game, persay. I think they're lending Sora game developers rather than actually being a part of the team itself. The reason I say this is because the company didn't get any credit in the Smash Brothers trailer. So this reason enough to believe that all they're really did was just lend a hand rather than them seriously being in charge of anything.

The credits say, and I quote : "Characters: © Nintendo / HAL Laboratories inc. / Pokémon / Creatures inc. / GAME FREAK inc. / CAPCOM CO., LTD."

After a quick analysis, I realised that, if it was for all characters that will be in-game, it was lacking something : Intelligent Systems (For Fire Emblem). So, I think the door is still open for a Namco rep. But if they get one, from which series would it come from? I think there are five choices :

- Pac-Man : If the go for this it's obviously Pac-Man
- Tales of : Surely will be Gamecube's (kinda-)exclusive game, Tales of Symphonia. It that case, it's Lloyd, no doubt.
- Tekken : I dunno enough about that series to guess a character.
- Soul Calibur : I DO know that serie, and if they get to choose someone, it's either Mitsurugi, Ivy or Nightmare. And that will be awesome, as Link haven't fought these foes in a decade.

So, what do you guys think?
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:01 am

http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/pikmin.html

Olimar is confirmed to be in SSB4! I'm really glad about this because I was really worried they were cutting the Pikmin rep because of 3DS limitations. It also seems to confirm we will get a Pikmin stage, though not much is seen of it in the screenshots, it is clearly Pikmin themed.

The Pikmin are a lot more high-res compared to their SSBB counterparts, all 5 original Pikmin look confirmed to be in Olimar's moveset, which doesn't sound good for Pink and Rock Pikmin.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:09 am

I was honestly betting on Alph or Charlie form Pikmin 3 to replace Olimar, but I'm glad to see he's making a return.

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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:29 am

get hype

Dustination wrote:
I was honestly betting on Alph or Charlie form Pikmin 3 to replace Olimar
olimar is classic tho, you really think they'd chop him in favor of some new character nobody's accustomed to yet?
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:49 am

Im very pleased to see Olimar back, though Im quite surprised he was revealed a month prior to Pikmin 3's release. Wonder if this spoils anything for Pikmin fans?
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:27 am

I speculate that there may be a second pikmin character who will use the 2 new pikmin

but idk
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:10 am



Comparing the two, I think the Pikmin must be the biggest graphical increase for SSB4 so far. I mean the Pikmin no longer look like a 7 year olds first try at origami!
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:12 am

Yay Pikmin

I'd have been surprised if Olimar didn't return honestly
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:24 am

Life accomplished.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:45 am




Welcome back, Olimar.
After he was confirmed to appear in Pikmin 3, there was no doubt he would return.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:20 am

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:56 am

Aww yeah.

That is awesome.

Bu yeah, he seems to only use the Pikmins from the first two games.

And I love how they also rendered the small whistle.


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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:12 am

Kiddragon wrote:
Aww yeah.

That is awesome.

Bu yeah, he seems to only use the Pikmins from the first two games.

And I love how they also rendered the small whistle.

Yeah probably because he wasn't the one who discovered the Rock and Winged Pikmin, the Pikmin 3 characters did. I'm glad that the white and purple Pikmin are staying in SSB4 because they don't make an appearance in Pikmin 3's story mode, as far as we've heard they are Challenge mode exclusive. If they added someone like Alph or Charlie, they would have the 3 primary Pikmin, then also the rock and winged Pikmin.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:13 am

I doubt Sakurai will make a 2nd Pikmin character for the sake of adding the 2 new Pikmin when he can simply give it to Olimar
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:21 am

Kiddragon wrote:
Yeah, huh, sorry about that second double post...

ANYWAY, after analyzing the ending credits of the Smash Bros vids, I realised something, most notably related to this post :

AEM wrote:
rjones1325 wrote:
I have a feeling we'll see a Namco character like pacman since they're helping on the game
I don't think Namco is helping the game, persay. I think they're lending Sora game developers rather than actually being a part of the team itself. The reason I say this is because the company didn't get any credit in the Smash Brothers trailer. So this reason enough to believe that all they're really did was just lend a hand rather than them seriously being in charge of anything.

The credits say, and I quote : "Characters: © Nintendo / HAL Laboratories inc. / Pokémon / Creatures inc. / GAME FREAK inc. / CAPCOM CO., LTD."

After a quick analysis, I realised that, if it was for all characters that will be in-game, it was lacking something : Intelligent Systems (For Fire Emblem). So, I think the door is still open for a Namco rep. But if they get one, from which series would it come from?
it's probable that the reason they're doing that is just to show what characters are as of yet in the game
smash bros brawl didn't have intellegent systems or sega, because they weren't in the game yet
but you bring up an interesting point!! i'm going to support that theory : )
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PostSubject: Re: Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Discussion   Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:30 am

Smash King wrote:
I doubt Sakurai will make a 2nd Pikmin character for the sake of adding the 2 new Pikmin when he can simply give it to Olimar

I agree with this, I have doubts that there will be 2 Pikmin characters also. But there is still the slight chance. If there is I won't complain Very Happy
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