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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:54 pm

I updated the poll with everyone's votes at this point Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:20 pm

Skull Kid (Majora's Mask)
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:15 pm

Skull Kid <3
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:31 pm

I vote for Skull Kid.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:27 pm

Skull Kid

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Well isn't this pointless?
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:09 pm

Slissith wrote:
Skull Kid



i'm sorry but i just had to do this
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:15 pm

-Dettadeus- wrote:
Slissith wrote:
Skull Kid



i'm sorry but i just had to do this

But det.

He is a man now.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:11 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:30 pm

Toon zelda/tetra due to the fact that we have toon link, why not make a toon zelda in to add to the toon versions of zelda characters....
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:29 pm

Young Link!, Majora"s mask is my favorite game of all time.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:49 pm

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Young Link!, Majora"s mask is my favorite game of all time.

If so then vote for Skull Kid instead, Young Link was a strong candidate in the alt polls and so there's no point in voting for him as DLC.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:00 pm

MercuryHg34 wrote:
Exordx wrote:
Young Link!, Majora"s mask is my favorite game of all time.

If so then vote for Skull Kid instead, Young Link was a strong candidate in the alt polls and so there's no point in voting for him as DLC.

The alt polls virtually mean nothing, as Det has already stated.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:25 pm

virtually

So they have a small shred of a meaning.

Young Link for Link alt.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:24 am

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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:35 pm

oh ok let me correct myself because apparently virtually nothing does not mean nothing

they mean really nothing
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:44 pm

So you say. And yet, Wigglytuff wasn't even being considered as an alt before the polls, nor was Raichu, nor was Masks Young Link. Now all 3 have a fair chance.

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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:47 pm

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So you say. And yet, Wigglytuff wasn't even being considered as an alt before the polls, nor was Raichu, nor was Masks Young Link. Now all 3 have a fair chance.

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says you?

it was stated when the poll began that it would have zero bearing on the actual roster
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:10 pm

I'm not saying they have a good chance because of vote counts. I'm saying they do because they were brought up when they might have been forgotten about otherwise. And IIRC, a lot of Wigglytuff's supporters were Devs and Moderators.

By saying they mean nothing, you are simultaneously saying community opinions mean nothing. Considering the opposite is true of every other part of this games development as evidenced by the various official polls, that means you are creating a specific and unique bias against the communities views on alts. Limiting the number of them that get in is understandable, ignoring the vote counts is not.

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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:32 pm

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I'm not saying they have a good chance because of vote counts. I'm saying they do because they were brought up when they might have been forgotten about otherwise. And IIRC, a lot of Wigglytuff's supporters were Devs and Moderators.

By saying they mean nothing, you are simultaneously saying community opinions mean nothing. Considering the opposite is true of every other part of this games development as evidenced by the various official polls, that means you are creating a specific and unique bias against the communities views on alts. Limiting the number of them that get in is understandable, ignoring the vote counts is not.

holy mother of god you are WAY blowing this out of proportion

the roster has been finalized for over a year now and the only time we've seriously considered changing it so far was for unova trainer to accommodate snivy

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as evidenced by the various official polls
the alt poll was NEVER OFFICIAL
YOU created it on your own accord and it was stated REPEATEDLY, BEFORE THE POLL ENDED, that it would have NO direct influence on the roster whatsoever
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:45 pm

I didn't say the alt poll was official now did I? I simply stated the other polls as reference that community opinions have a lot of sway on this game. I only created the alt polls as a reference point of the community opinions, which again it would be biased to ignore. Not that it actually determines final alt roster decisions, but that highly voted characters should be highly considered.

The main roster has been finalized, but clearly that doesn't apply to alts. Evidenced by the lack of alts on the roster, it clearly wasn't a consideration the first time around. Secondly, because other alts like Mega Man X have just been added in without a second thought, well after the roster was finalized. If anything, what should be done is this: Devs figure out how many alts would be reasonable and feasible, then hold an official poll to determine who makes the cut. That, or decide your own alt roster but really look at who the community wants, as provided by the polls. The roster should not be considered finalized in regard to alts, and the various reasons for that are presented above.

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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:54 pm

I agree with Perfecthell.

Anyways, gonna go collect all the votes on THIS poll in a bit.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:57 pm

You wanna go sprite the extra alt characters and code them yourself?
Every alt that is added at this point is extra work on top of everything we already have, including DLC. Unless our spriting team grows in size drastically, I can't see myself allowing more work to be put on it. Adding arguably unnecessary alts (yes, nearly every alt I saw included in that poll is highly unnecessary and most seem like they were suggested just for the heck of it) would slow the game's production even more at this point.
Unless you're Giga or ridiculously lazy with your animations (or both), a character takes on average 2-3 months to be fully sprited. Adding just 10 alts to the roster could slow production by well over half a year if we had all spriters working to this average at all times.

It is in no way bias against the community, and if you're accusing me of being the least supportive of the community's opinions, you have another thing coming. This is largely logistics at this point; we can hardly afford to keep adding more and more and more work to the game's small primary development team without heavily delaying the game's final version.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:20 pm

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Those were the only alts to receive substantial support. In most cases, i cannot see how they are "just for the heck of it".

If 10 alts is too many, why not narrow the list down to a top 5? I think the devs should at least consider doing something with that list.

Our development team is small currently. This happens to be a growing project, and with this years apex and next year coming, you don't know that the development team won't be growing substantially. I imagine it would, though we won't really know until the months after Apex. It's something to consider at least.

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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:31 pm

Guys, can you take this discussion elsewhere? I Don't mind if you guys make a separate thread of this discussion or take it back to the alt roster discussion or whatever. Just please don't make this poll go completely off-topic
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:14 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:06 pm


Zelda DLC Poll has been updated.

Also, if anyone wants to help start the Candidate Listings for this poll, feel free to do so.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:28 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:12 pm


Thanks Kuro Pit.

Also, I had to edit the votes cause I previously forgot to get rid of the alternate account votes from Kai. But that is all taken care of now.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:03 am

Toon Zelda/Tetra together. That's my vote.

No clue why people are over glorifying Skull Kid.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Legend Of Zelda Representative CrusaDLC Character Poll   Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:29 am

Nights Owl wrote:
Toon Zelda/Tetra together. That's my vote.

No clue why people are over glorifying Skull Kid.
I would ask the same thing about Zero Two. But oh well.
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