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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:15 pm

Assuming characters are cut, it' always possible they'll be re-added via DLC anyway.

And regarding Toon Link, do people not remember what MVC3 did with Tron Boone, in that she was background character in her stage when not being played, but wasn't in the bg when being used by a player? Who's to say Smash 4 won't do the same with TL?


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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:17 pm

I would say worst case scenario is 5 characters cut. In reality, it will likely be 3 or less. To have nearly half the roster on your 50/50 and lower categories is ridiculous.

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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:51 pm

Mr. Mistress wrote:
Assuming characters are cut, it' always possible they'll be re-added via DLC anyway.

And regarding Toon Link, do people not remember what MVC3 did with Tron Boone, in that she was background character in her stage when not being played, but wasn't in the bg when being used by a player? Who's to say Smash 4 won't do the same with TL?
TL is already a background character on the 3DS stage for Spirit Tracks, he conducts the train you fight on. So yeah, I think his removal is almost certain.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:22 am

Mr. Mistress wrote:
Assuming characters are cut, it' always possible they'll be re-added via DLC anyway.

And regarding Toon Link, do people not remember what MVC3 did with Tron Boone, in that she was background character in her stage when not being played, but wasn't in the bg when being used by a player? Who's to say Smash 4 won't do the same with TL?
It should also be said that Doomsday was in the background of an Injustice stage, when he was playing they just used his alt-skin in the background.

However I still doubt this is the case, if you look at Toon Link on the Spirit Tracks stage he is very low-res, if he was planned for the game he would have a much better model.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:11 am

you're suggesting that they're are going to cut the "main" villain of the zelda zeries? that'd be like cutting bowser -_-
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:26 am

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I would say worst case scenario is 5 characters cut.  In reality, it will likely be 3 or less.  To have nearly half the roster on your 50/50 and lower categories is ridiculous.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:38 am

:L
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/06/not_all_super_smash_bros_characters_will_make_the_leap_to_wii_u_and_3ds
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:41 am

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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:45 am

Character's being cut was inevitable.

People who thought everyone would make it were just kidding themselves.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:49 am

Oh all characters will make it...
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:51 am

You do know they still can't add characters to Brawl, right?
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:52 am

Don't forget about Crusade Wink
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:21 pm

Hopefully Toonlink will stay because of his TLOZ Wind Waker HD. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:32 pm

You DO realize that this also goes for the non-returning characters from Melee too, right? There is nothing suggesting that he meant Brawl characters only.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:48 pm

I still stoked that megaman is in.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:26 pm

*=basically confirmed or completely confirmed wrote:
Safe
Bowser (*)
Captain Falcon(*)
Donkey Kong(*)
Fox(*)
Kirby(*)
Link(*)
Luigi(*)
Mario(*)
Marth(*)
Mega Man(*)
Mr. Game & Watch(He's Kinda a Staple)
Ness(*)
Pikachu(*)
Pit(*)
Samus(*)
Villager(*)
Wii Fit Trainer(*)
Yoshi(*)
Zelda/Shiek(*)
Peach(*)
Ganondorf(Main villain who most likley wouldn't be Replaced)
Meta Knight(very unlikley to be cut)
Diddy Kong(*)
Jigglypuff(Still relevent- FAIRY TYPE REVEALED!)
Wario(Mario's Evil Twin, he wont get cut.)
Falco(He just won't be Cut, no question)
Ice Climbers(See Mr G&W)
King Dedede(See Ganondorf)

Possible Cut
Olimar (Possibly being replaced with a Pikmin 3 Character)
R.O.B. (He may be cut, but probably not)
Lucas (its Possible, but not very)
Mewtwo(Now Relevent - MEWTWO AWAKENED FORM.)
Pokemon of Pokemon Trainer(May have different pokemon, but most likley won't be cut)
Red(He is Pokemon Trainer Currently but he may be replaced)
Sonic(He is 3rd party so its possible he may be cut.)
Zero Suit Samus(She most likely will be able to separate from her suit, but its possible she won't.


Probable Cut
Ike(Will probably be replaced by Chrom, Anna, Lucina, Tiki, or Robin)
Lucario(Probably to be replaced by Mewtwo, or a Sixth Gen pokemon)
Snake(See Wolf)
Wolf( Hopefully not, but probably yes)


Dead in the Water
Dr. Mario(Planned for brawl but left out at the last second)
Pichu(He May come back but its very unlikley)
Roy(See Pichu, and Ike)
Toon Link(May Come Back, but was in a stage of the trailer so unlikley)
Young Link(If Majora Mask 3D is Announed then its highly possible, but if not, its not probbable at all)

Thought I would put this up as a Revised version of Ganons, not that his was bad but... I fealt like making one.


Also Might as well put up Speculation
From Mario: Paper Mario, or Daisy, or Waluigi
From Zelda: Skull Kid
From Kirby: Waddle Dee
From Pokemon: Mewtwo, or Victini, or Celebi, or Zoreak, or Random Gen 6 Pokemon
From Fire Emblem: Chrom, or Lucina, or Robin, or Anna, or Tiki
From Donkey Kong: K. Rool, or Dixie
From Starfox: Krystal or Leon
From Kid Icarus: Pauletena, or Magnus

I don't feel like typing anything more, so... Thoughts?




I still stoked that megaman is in.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:20 am

If time constraint is gonna be the main cause of veteran characters getting cut, then I'm gonna pray for a major delay. lol.

I would hate to get the feeling of wanting to play the previous titles just to enjoy the characters that didn't make it. Not to mention crossing my fingers to see them return for SSB5.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:45 am

Sorry for the double post, but I got something very useful for this thread.

Credit goes to FrostWraith & others from Smashboards.
http://smashboards.com/threads/the-official-list-of-confirmed-stuff-in-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u-3ds.337544/

I was given permission to borrow the information and sources to make our version on the OP.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:46 am

They could just release unfinished characters later through DLC.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:48 am

Dettadeus wrote:
They could just release unfinished characters later through DLC.

DLC is not even confirmed at this point. So we don't even know if we will be getting that.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:11 am

Smash King wrote:
Dettadeus wrote:
They could just release unfinished characters later through DLC.

DLC is not even confirmed at this point. So we don't even know if we will be getting that.
It was said in an interview that no DLC has been planned, but there is still the possibility. Sakurai said he just wanted to put 100% of his focus on the core game to give it max content on release.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:14 am

Ganon Fodder wrote:
Smash King wrote:
Dettadeus wrote:
They could just release unfinished characters later through DLC.

DLC is not even confirmed at this point. So we don't even know if we will be getting that.
It was said in an interview that no DLC has been planned, but there is still the possibility. Sakurai said he just wanted to put 100% of his focus on the core game to give it max content on release.

Basically, he doesn't want to pull Capcom-level shit with Smash 4.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:21 am

Mr. Screencapstress wrote:
Ganon Fodder wrote:
Smash King wrote:
Dettadeus wrote:
They could just release unfinished characters later through DLC.

DLC is not even confirmed at this point. So we don't even know if we will be getting that.
It was said in an interview that no DLC has been planned, but there is still the possibility. Sakurai said he just wanted to put 100% of his focus on the core game to give it max content on release.

Basically, he doesn't want to pull Capcom-level shit with Smash 4.
Put simply, yes.

He may start thinking about DLC when all that's left is minor balancing, but until then don't expect even a confirmation of DLC.
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PostSubject: Re: SSB4 General Discussion   Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:43 pm

locking this thread in favor for a new version of it that contains all confirmed content.
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